Why does it only start in nuetral?

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  1. BWeiss

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    Then as other said before...its gotta be your kickstand switch. At least by checking the clutch you're eliminating variables.
     


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    Davey...
    If one rides a bike with the kickstand down, it is possible to get to a very high rate of speed before discovering the stand is down.

    If the way a rider discovers the stand happens to be when the stand catches the pavement as the rider begins to turn, this typically upsets the suspension, the rider, some portion of the stand or stand mounting bracket. This is typically followed by at a minimum, embarrassement and surprise. The other extreme is the former rider getting a final ride to the morgue with a blanket over what was their face.

    A working kickstand switch is a good thing. Listen to Stuka.

    Prosit,
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    Not a clue on torqueing the spring keepers on a Barnett. Check with Barnett. That switch mechanism is down low and it could be shorting, a busted spring, a crappy connection or it's just died of old age. Hard to really say specifically that it has to be one thing or another.
     


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    Based on your responses, I would suggest that you take your bike to a mechanic. No offense, but you do not seem to be grasping the suggestions from others. You have been told many times to check your sidestand switch, and yet you keep saying something else like "nope that is not is, is more fuel needed?". That confounds me. For your safety (and others) leave it to the pros.
     


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    Nope...Sorry

    FYI...I just shorted the clutch switch terminal and the side-stand switch terminals and the same thing happened.. not starting.

    I would appreciate knowledgeable advice and not opinion of what you think my understanding is...I have been riding for over 20 years and fixing bikes for more than 25...

    If you have no idea how to determine a solution then please keep your comments to yourself.

    You don't help by compounding the issue with poor opinions of others..

    Have a nice........day!
     


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    Why wud any1 want to help you with an attitude like that? BTW its your feckin sidestand switch!
     


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    Dude..at this point I am not even going to explain ...if you think its the side stand after I have checked and shorted the switch...

    I will try it again with the stand down and the stand up.

    If the switch was working would I still be able to start the bike with the stand down and in gear?
     


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    Ok...for anyone looking through this thread in the future or anyone who vehemently believes the issue is caused by a failing side-stand switch....in my case it was not...

    After suspecting the Clutch Switch, cleaning examining and looking at it again to have it not work and being led to believe that it was the sidestand switch...IT WAS NOT.

    Turns out it was still the clutch switch... If anyone cares I have an RR process to clean it...It must be taken apart and cleaned and carefully placed so that the clutch lever has full actuation..

    Hope this makes sense......I would like to thank all who helped...
     


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    Glad to hear you got it sorted out.
     


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    Sorry I didn't get to read this while you were still working on it Davey. I helped a buddy out with the same prob on his F4i a few months back. Had to remove and clean his clutch switch in order to keep it running in gear. Glad you got it figured out, and just in time. It's a lovely weekend.... go enjoy a ride!!!
     


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    I did the same thing and eventually worked out that 'cos I have small hands I wound the clutch lever all the way in on my 93 and though the switch is OK the lever won't actuate it. Wind it out a couple of points and all is OK.

    Might be worth a go??
     
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    Thanks Drewl...and thanks for explaining the sidestand switch...I had no idea that it could be a problem.

    Best regards
     


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    Thanks, it turned out to be the clutch switch just needed a good clean.....boy this thing could leave a guy stranded!!!!!
     


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    We shall now hear from no less than 18 of the VFR Bozo Brigade who knew it was that damned clutch switch all along.
     


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    I knew it was the clutch switch, but called it a side stand switch instead :wink:

    Davey: Glad you kicked its ass. Enjoy your celebratory beverage. Most folks are likely trying to help, sometimes it is pretty hard to figure out what is going on over the internet. Hope all the switches are happy now.

    Prosit,
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    Are you sure you're not just too proud to admit it was your sidestand switch? LOL. My opinion is that you have developed a big ego in those 25 years of being a mechanic. You talk about disconnecting your sidestand switch permanently which is an unwise decision, and not one a pro would ever suggest, and you talk about a fuel issue which has nothing to do with it.

    I am just saying that it is easier for people try to help you if you do not have a smart "I know it all" attitude. Everybody is guilty of this at one time or another. I am just recommending to give the ego a rest when you need help and enjoy riding your bike. We are all here to help one another and enjoy the thrills of VFR ownership. Glad you have your bike fixed.

    Have a good day.
     


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    Like I said...it was the clutch switch...the sidestand had nothing to do with it...I remember cundalini talking about this in another thread.
     


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    Thanks Nozzle!!!! Its really hard to disseminate everyone's experience and apply it to one's project....some people are insistant that it is this and it is that...but I would be cautious before I give any absolute advice unless I was absolutely sure even then you never know it could still be something else..

    anyhow i realized that the clutch switch as simple as it may be to fix, could really mess with a bike owners head!!! lol

    Cheers
     


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    HAHA very funny badbilly...Most guys here are pretty knowledgeable and no ones perfect ..although VFR issues with certain years certainly seem to have very similar problems...no harm done..

    I am glad I didnt run to the dealer and buy a new sidestand switch.. that would have been a complete waste of loot!.

    regards
     


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    I did, I did know. I called it way back in post #8.

    Maybe I should change my name, so people will take me more seriously.


    :crazy:
     


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