Which direction for 7th generation?

Unfortunately the best answer I got was, depends. If the brand manager is a, probably younger, enthusist themselves they would likely look to sites like this to determine how they're doing. If on the other hand the brand manager is a corporate bean counter they probably aren't likey to look. Didn't get any specific info about the VFR. Was kinda hoping for more.

 

like the fifth generation, lighter, gear driven cams, more horsepower, more torque, fully adjustable foot pegs, single sided swingarm, better and lighter wheels (eight spoke like the 90-93),ram air something more tame than the next years 800cc. moto GP bike...... Hmmmmmmmmm..................

 

Me 3 on "other" - the overall intention of the VF is correct - and unique. Beef up the power, cut out the fat, and you have the perfect combination.

 

yea, the 'ole - where's the V 5 VFR /XX combo bike ?

I'd say spend the bucks - all new but with current ' category' - sport tour - emphasis sports .
I'd like a 750 version ( my insur. nearly doubles at 750 - and lumps the VFR 800 and Fireblade in same bracket.! )
no techno babble ( or at least a simple basic version, with techno stuff ( Vtec, linked brakes, etc Strictly optional.
so - V 4 ( most expensive engine type)
keep single sw. arm
full adjust susp. or at least sportier.
better brakes ( from 600 RR ?)
two versions - full fairing and 'streetfighter, with smaller rear seat section
200 mi range BEFORE reserve
drop the pounds. 440 or so dry, 490 full up

 

Well I just found out that they have at least 4 different versions of the Gold Wing, why not the same for the VFR? Sport, Sort Tourer, And a hello Nasty version i.e. 800 that is 410 lbs. fully adjustable suspension, or a gp style with turn signals....Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............

 

I voted other. I would like it to be lighter with more HP. I can't complain about the rest. If you have ever ridden a first gen then riding a 4th 5th or 6th gen, the 1st gen just doesn't come close. throttle response in the FI models is unbelievable. the VTEC switchover feels like a turbo boost. the bike carves curves like knife

 

After the 86 and 87, the VFRs were produced as a "Jack of all trades" type of bike. I beleive that was one main reason that the VFR became such a well fonded bike. If it was up to me, I do see a need for a little more horsepower, better fully adjustable suspension, and more refined reliablity enhancements.

I truly love riding my bike and its ability to do so well at many levels of riding. If possible, it would be awesome to see adjustable ergonomic positions to accomindate the many riding styles that we all do. Some of us like it hot (canyon carving) and some of us like it cool (touring and cruzing). I enjoy riding in sport-bike groups that do bends a few laws when hitting the twisties, but I also take VFR on tours as well when I slap hard luggage on it.

If the 7th Generation addresses any of items that I listed, it will be a winner in my book.

 

I've seen a lot of posts on here lobbying for a sportier VFR. Why not simply hop on a CBR then? Because there are special all-arounder features unique to the VFR that can't be found on the pure sportbike. But what are they?

What are the "will not sacrifice" sport-touring features on the VFR that makes the CBR or others, non-options, even for those canyon carving VFR riders?
I'm new to my veefa, so I'm looking to find out from the more loyal fans.

Yes, except the FJR1300 sucks!!:biggrin:

 

I know everyone on this board has ALOT more experience with the vfr than I do, its gonna take me a while to find fault with this GREAT bike, but I'm sure sooner or later I will want to change something, nothing is perfect, especially when it comes to pleasing everyone that owns one. When it comes to more power, well, duh, do you ever have enuff????

 

well the the person who suggested switch to a cbr I suggest that that person ride 350 + miles on his cbr and the on a vfr. This is not so much on the comfort of the vfr but the motor. linear power, and of handling differences compared to an inline motor. Inline motors tend to fall which way they turn, whereas a V shaped motor acts like a gyroscope.

 

Increase capacity to 1000 cc, drop 30 kg in weight, and 120+ hp.
Perhaps improve suspension..but may be in th eye of the beholder.
Aim to exceed what Triumph have done with the lastest ST.

 

Wash your mouth out with soap, I'd sooner sell my house than part with my VFR. :tongue: :biggrin:

 

I think that Honda should have two offerings. The first would be the VFR as we know it today - a bike that is a compromise between sport and touring. The second offering would be a true sport version based on a V4 or V5 engine. This bike would be a clean break from the VFR heritage, but potentially be the start of a new generation of V powered sport bikes. I think that if this ever became a reality, it would be a solution that would satisfy EVERYBODY.

 

I think the VFR is pretty good as is. I would like to see the seat comfort improved. Some honda accessories/options offered, like heated grips, tall windscreen, bar risers, aux power outlet would be nice.

 

Maybe Honda should just bing back a new and improved Blackbird CBR for 2008. I am happy with my 2k VFR and I will keep it till it falls apart - then I will put it back together. I like the Blackbird, ZX14 & Hayabusa because they suit me for longer trips and for two up riding. The first improvement Honda needs to make to the VFR for me is getting rid of the VTEC, and then I would be interested in buying a new VFR. As long as they keep the VTEC in the VFR it really does not make any difference what Honda does with the VFR to me. If they want to improve the VFR, then Honda should look at improvements that would reduce the maintenance costs. Since I am so used to riding with LBS (I also have a Goldwing with LBS), it is very different riding a bike with a V-Twin and non-LBS. After thinking about it I would like to see the VFR improved so that is a V4 version of the new 2006/2007 CBR1000 with the lighter weight, extra horses and a fully adjustable suspension. Just my two cents.

 

Okay, after reading all of these posts :blah:, I've concluded that Honda has probably had the same conversation in a board room somewhere. And they have probably come to this conclusion:

Few customers want a sportbike that is both soft-core on touring and on sport

These guys aren't stupid. If you want more tourer than sport--please take a look at the ST1300, this bike has everything you need and you're paying for it.

If you want more sport--sorry to break it to everyone, but I don't think Honda will ever make a true V4 sportbike in mass production. Too expensive and too heavy. They need to put the money into things that matter on sport rep bikes (e.g. suspension) and keep the weight down.

So that leaves V4 sportbike fiends with two options: 1) take one in the butt and buy a CBR RR like everyone else or; 2) sell your house and buy an Aprilia.

Otherwise, smile, you own a VFR--a soon to be discontinued model.http://vfrworld.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
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