what did you do to your vfr today?

I don't know what the deal is. It's rebuilt correctly and no leaks, clutch won't disengage. I'm willing to try anything at this point.


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The only reason a clutch won't disengage is air in the system, or bad master (I doubt that is the problem here).
You can have a bubble in the top banjo and it will still bleed normally.
But it won't disegage the clutch as the bubble compresses when you press lever.
It will still bleed normaslly, as there is not enough pressure to compress air bubble when bleeding.
Did you try what I posted earlier about removing the master?

 

Nope, I have a master rebuild kit just to freshen the bike up. My bike manual came in today so I'm sure there's something in there about how to bleed the "banjo?" I don't know what your mean by that. The piston definitely moves but I guess not hard enough.


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There won't be anything on the banjo in the manual.
The fitting on the end of the hose that attaches to the master cylinder is called a banjo.
The bolt that goes through it is the banjo bolt.
This bolt has an orifice through the center, and one on the side to let the fluid through into the hose.
The side hole can end up facing up, down or sideways when installed.
A bubble will get stuck on the top of the banjo, and it is sometimes very hard to bleed out because of the angle the master sits in.
Fill the master to the correct level, then install the cap.
Now remove it from the handle bar and tilt it so the banjo is facing towards the bottom at 25 to 45°, now tap the clutch lever in and out numerous times as you shake the master a bit. You don't want to press it enough to disengage the clutch, just enough so the piston moves slightly in the master.
If you had the cap off, you would see bubbles coming out, hopefully this solves your problem.

 

Awesome, I'll give it a shot!


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Well...the seal on the master was pretty worn out, also the hole in the banjo was totally clogged with crap along with half the chamber.....im sure this was the issue (I hope). I gotta pick up some new snap ring pliers tomorrow and throw it back together.


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Again, didn't do much with my VFRs but did help brother Long with swapping out his front brake pads , plug a hole in the rear tire and install a new clutch kit. Prior to that I rode the Duc up ACH/AFH and got an extreme close up of a deer as it crossed the road! Thankfully we didn't connect and the tires and brakes did their job, as I might have been repairing another bike but most likely with a freezer full of venison as a consolation prize!

 

That would do it, it's amazing how much rubbish can build up inside a sealed system.
I don't think it's had much maintenance for a long time.
Time to check the brakes as well.
If you dismantle the master, hot running water is the best thing to disolve all that crud, specially from behind the glass window.

 

Dang, wish I'd read that 2 hours ago before I wasted half a can of brake cleaner trying to clean that specific crud out of my ST1100 clutch window! Thanks for the tip for next time.

 

Yea, it was neglected when I bought it, has a lot of miles too. I've already gone through the rear system with a flush and new pads and rebuilt cylinder. Front pads are ok, gonna change them when I do a fork job this winter. I've pretty much gone through the whole bike at this point minus motor stuff (I did change all fluids), that's coming this winter as well.


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I'd have a better chance of crapping out a golden brick than getting this clutch bled. I re built the master and I can't get any pressure now . I've power bled it, reverse syringed it, beat the hell out of it. Taken the master off and flipped it every way possible. I'm just gonna take it to the shop, I just wanna ride the damn thing already and something so simple shouldn't defeat a guy who can rebuild entire motors.


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Don't feel bad, something has defeated all of us at some stage.
It is much easier once you've done it and worked it out, but hard to explain in writing.
Good luck.

 

Where are you located? Maybe you can offer up some cold brews or other compensation to a fellow member to come help you out. If you're anywhere near Anaheim, CA I'd be glad to offer you a hand.

 

Ootv work for IPA
Langunita to be exact

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Got pressure built up, still no clutch. When I pump up, hold, and bleed I can shoot it across the garage so I know it's bled right. According to the manual it assembled right.....what am I missing here. The rod isn't bent, you can't put it in backwards??


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I appreciate the offers guys! I'm in Houston. In introductions no one replied so I'm assuming there's not to many members here. My wife's uncle has a MC shop, if it comes down to it I'll trailer it over. Thanks again guys.


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Sorry in advance for an obvious question. Have you got the slave cylinder properly seated onto the engine case? I know the slave piston likes to creep out when it is off the bike, and when you go to bolt the slave back on, the bolts don't seem long enough until you compress the piston back into the cylinder.

Also, clutch plates like to stick together, and when you first pull the clutch in you may need to rock the bike back and forth in gear to free the plates.

 

I'm starting to thing the plates are stuck


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If the bike hasn't been ridden in a while, you could be right.
Well spotted Terry.

 

Got it back together. Bike won't start. Found this....never unplugged it but not sure where it goes


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