VF500 F2 Rear Wheel Impossible!

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  1. Moose

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    YUP - plus it is a good excuse to lube up the rear caliper slider (the fronts were bone dry when I swapped on the EBC Sintered pads)

    Mooose
     


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  2. matt1986vf500f

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    i have the letters GM in my vin to..i would also like to add something to this thread my own two cents if you dont mind if the wheel swap has'nt been working this entire time? then why are you riding the bike the way it is? i'm a simple person if something does'nt work for me i try something else untill it either works or i've wasted enough energy on it to call it quits..
     


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  3. slowbird

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    Thanks Matt.

    I don't mind at all, and I thank you for your candor.

    The kit has had fitment issues and I didn't ride the bike with the kit installed until it fit. (and it did so after taking out almost half the swingarm tab)
    It didn't fit well, but it fit. I slowly tried and tested and looked at things to see why they were happening. Make adjustments and mods to the bike so that things will be better.

    To answer your questions:

    -I didn't ride the bike with the kit installed until it fit.

    -The reason why I didn't "call it quits" was because I couldn't swallow the explanation that my bike and only my bike is having problems with this kit.

    Thanks to Moose we have discovered that the kit doesn't other bikes either. The reason why the kit fits Jamies bike and why you had no problems with yours is something I'd like to find an answer for aswell.

    While you are here Matt, did you have to do any modifications to your swingarm tab?
    I remember reading in your thread that you had problem with the rotor bolts rubbing something.
     


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    no never had to grind on the swing arm tab, the rotor bolts i had were the stock VF500 rotor bolts the kit requires F2 rotor bolts so one call to bike bandit got it all taken care of, this is the second set of tires.. the one problem i've only had is i cooked the bearings and had to replace the bearings and axle for the rear wheel, but was'n tthe kits fault, it was my fault for going with cheap shit and i payed the price for it.
     


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    Thanks Matt.

    Well if you didn't have to modify the swingarm tab, and you (should) have the same bike and swingarm as Moose and I, then the issue might be with the Kit.
     


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    well hopefully not
     


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    From an empirical viewpoint, the dimensions I have noted are: 17mm wide x 18.5 mm deep.
     


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    Is that the measurement of the Slot in the caliper bracket or the Swingarm tab?
     


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    The swingarm tab dimensions that we used as reference point for my wheel conversion are: 17mm wide x 18.5 mm deep. My friend Rick Denoon modeled everything off of a swingarm he had up in Winnipeg, CA (I don't know the year of this swingarm).

    The kit fit perfectly on my swingarm which is an '84. I do believe that the tabs are the same across the three years but it's best to verify with some actual dimensions from a cross section of different VF500F's.
     


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    Winnipeg, Canada?
     


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    Sure enough!
     


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    40C (104 Fahrenheit for you "Mericans")is too damn warm to be working on a bike !!!!!

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    There are two measurements of the "Stub" projection distance, 11.6mm from the outer edge to the machined edge, and 17.74mm from the outer edge to the swingarm (total projection of stub from swing-arm)

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    I need a BEER STAT !!!!!

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    Wow Moose....you couldn't have done a better job!

    Thanks for fighting through this heat.
     


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    I am vacationing down on the Delaware beaches with the family. Are you telling me I drove 10 hours and it is just as hot back home??

    I have an extra 86 swingarm back home. I can compare your measurements when I get back, if that might be useful. I don't think I want to pull the wheel to check my 84 though. Now that it's finally on the road I just want to ride....
     


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    I understand completely.

    Whatever measurements you can get would be great. :smile:
     


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    IC....how does Moose's measurements stack up to what you got?
     


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    The noted depth (17.74mm) seems about right based on what our computer model shows (I'll have to pull my wheel to verify the dimensions on my swingarm). Keep in mind it is the depth of the slot that has been the issue for you (IIRC). The slot's depth should be greater than the depth of the tab - i.e. on our model there is actually 2.4mm of clear space (design clearance) between the leading edge of tab and the inside face of the slot.
     


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    That definitely seems to be the issue with my DMr kit. The slot is too shallow for the swingarm tab.

    So yours just sits on the tab?
     


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    The depth of the machined slot is 2.4mm greater than the depth of the swingarm tab.

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    One thought would be to remove a bit more material from the DMr slot, on your kit, to allow for a design clearance btwn these.
     
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    This really is epic. The thread is now ranked #9 of all time hottest VFRW threads (number of posts)
     


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