V-tech- Over all positive or negative?

VTEC
Able to leap cars in a single surge.....
stop a speeding Busa (okay at least make him look to see if his chain fell off)
attract women with large hooters from far away....

Bad things

Can cause gen 4 & 5 envey....
in corners known to cause dizzines.....
if over used may cause temporary blindness and in ability to stay seated in office chairs.....
if any of these problems persist seek professional help usually from a gsxr rider

 

I thought that Honda went down the VTEC road with the VFR in order to meet emissions standards. It is logical that they'd look to VTEC as it is their technology that they have successfuly deployed in their automobile line. The question is, could they have met the new standards with a whole different technology or by doing nothing at all? They have so much invested in VTEC technology that it would have not made sense for them to not use it. You can argue that the VFR implementation of it is flawed, but what else could they have done to meet the standards?

 

Considering that they have met the standards and that there really is nothing wrong with the bike, I am impressed.

Are other manufacturers not trying to meet the new standards or what are they doing to achieve them?

 

Well when I look at other Hondas, say a CBR1000RR it doesn't have V-tec to meet emissions, nether does a Gold wing nor any of their cruisers. I believe, like in their cars, it was something they could do, so why not. Again it's just not the Vtec engine as it really pretty tricky. But the Bike as a whole isn't what I was hoping for. Still believe there's room for two models, but with the CBR1000rr taking center stage and the racing circuit is built around that machine. doubt no mater how hard we kick, scream and cry for a change Honda will build what they feel is in their best interests. luckily for them the new kids on the block or the old kids that been there seem to like what they've done to the VFR. Whats that they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. LOL Glad I have what I have.

 

Hey, something just occured to me! After I go through my first VTEC valve adjustment, it will make my other bikes seem really easy!

Seriously, though; life and weather cooperated long enough for me to put in a short ride on the VFR since my last posts, and it really is a good bike. I'm looking forward to a 500 mile day to see how we get along.

 

You have a good point why did only the vfr get the vtec? seems like a large consensus seem to think vtec was for better emissions only. I think honda changed vfr to a create bigger market more towards sport tourer and tried to give the gen 6 a little more appeal in mid range and possibly better fuel economy over earlier models. did it work..... depends who you ask .... one thing is for sure gen 6 has had a good run going on 7 years with almost no change!! they dont come close to sales of gsxr but honda still seems to be pumping them out.

 

Interesting posts, It has been commented many times by the journo's that the VFR is so competent that it is boring, that it has no speciality like an RR or a Transalp or a cruiser. That it is many things to many people. I think that this is especially true for the V-Tec model. I am a BMW fan(don't shoot me) have had an RT, a K1200S and am currently on a GS 1200. My wife last year decided that as the kids are now grown up (24 and 19) that it was time to get off the pillion and onto something of ther own. She started very slow on a 125 scooter, went to a 250 scooter then to a Honda CBX 250 and in 18 months has mastered the skills to make her competent on the roads and highways of South Africa. Now we looked for a bike that she could live with for the next few years. Typically we go from shop to shop begging test rides and also from friends. 4 months later and she declared the bike she wanted. The Honda 800 V-Tec. I asked her to make a list of the things that she liked so I could put this on other forums.

Firstly the balance. She claims that it is the best balanced bike of all that she tried, including such as the Kawa Er6-f and N and the naked 750. She hated the BMW F800s and st and does not like the sports 600's. Included in the list was the GSR zook and the SV's as well as the Fazer and GSF Bandit.
She claimed to be insatntly comfortable when mounting and pulling the bike of the stand.

Handling. I have been on bikes all my life and am currently the Head motorcyle marshal for a group here in SA http://www.thinkbike.co.za/
and am often asked for riding advice. I can tell you that she looks like she has been riding that bike for years. It inspires confidence with the way it handles.

Power delivery. For experianced riders and especially sport bike fundi's the VFR is going to seem strange, not having that grunt instantly will be a negative, but for riders that are touring orientated, or are new, then the VFR is very forgiving. Get the second cam going and you have a very different machine that can deliver as I am sure many of you know. Not everyone however wants balls to the wall type riding. I like both and the VFR can give us both what we like. Touring and the odd adrenaline rush

Styling. Oh boy when a women wants styling there is no getting away from it. You could have a bike built to her custom riding style and if the visual styling is off then there is no sale. The VFR is a very exciting bike visually. She loves it I love it.

Ergo's. A journo once commented that the VFR seems to fit everyone. Seems abot right. I have heard no complaints about the ergo's even from the really tall guys. Maybe the 800 mil seat may be a factor for short people (really short that is, I am 5'7").

All in all I think the V-Tec engine suits the bike for what it is, a sport tourer. If you are not getting the sport bit out of your VFR. Go to track school.

 

Chomper, good post and nice video - except she's riding on the wrong side of the road!!!

 

She chose the right color though. :biggrin:

 

Bingo. I've got 200 miles in 2 days and agree completely.
The bike seems to be a perfect fit(5'10"). I find the stock seat
similar to the Corbin I have on my FJR. The seating position
similar to my R1200S. Very happy so far with my decision
to get the VTEC.

 

I've got no intention of selling mine!!

 

I went from a 600RR to a 800 vtec and I can go either way. I do like it when im gunning it in full throttle and the front wheel comes off the ground when the vtec kicks in.As far as power comanders and other mods. Everyone I know who own a sport bike is usually adding some kinda mod anyway wether it be sprockets,exhaust or power comanders it has nuthin to do with at least for me with not liking how the bike runs but more with optimizing the performance of the bike Im riding.

 

http://www.bikersoracle.com/vfr/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=46868
the v-tech is on top. I think it may be pre-concieved.

But i also not the V-tec seems fairly smooth and this may account for a diminished sense of speed. I felt much faster riding my friends cbr doing 100km/h than i do on my vfr.

 

"i love vtec."

"i hate vtec."

"vtec makes no difference to me."

Can we move on now? :tongue:

 

decided to mess with you about your statements :biggrin:

 

Does this happen often with yours? Mine has never done that--I have to employ more conventional wheelie techniques to lift the front tire.

 

I'd have to agree, my front almost never comes up, and to do so requires some intentional effort on my part.

Kick like that would be unpredictable in the corners.

 

My bike also has a very seamless transition at 6800 RPM. The only noticable difference at the transition point is the audible exhaust note. Up until the transition I can't even hear my stock exhaust. It makes a bit of noise after the transition.

 

Hmmm, My 80's & 90's VF's & VFR's, RC51's, F2 & F4, CBR 600 & 1000, Triumph Sprint, wheelie no problem with power only no clutching :first:

Oh wait, thats right, they all don't have V-tec & you can feel the motor/power better on them :biggrin:

My '04 VFR "V-tec" needs clutch work to loft the front end in 2nd :caked:

 

Taz, you seem to be dissatisfied with your bike. You should sell it and buy a Ducati St4s. Now that's a SPORT-tourer that will wheelie!