They got me again

THE VERY FIRST THING you learn is not to hit anything, you are a insect compared to cars. When I screwed up riding, it a good idea to stop riding for a while and figure out what your doing wrong. good time to change the oil, make sure your not too tired to ride- check everything twice-especially the brakes-spray some cleaner on them

 

Egads man--- LMAO---
Have we even heard a reply lately from saceur?
I know we all mean well with our opinions but think he got tarred and feathered a bit.
To tired from work and lazy to look.



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What ever he is doing to get hit that much isn't working to well:hat: so perhaps a bit ot tar is in order
If you look at it this way-he may not be around much longer to be tarred if he doesn't learn to ride on the defense at all times-which I am trained to do at all times-it just takes one big mistake and your done-run over by the evil mini van with a talking cell phone idiot called mom- the long Inland strong man -in perfect shape at 100+ cushed by a min van with mom on the cell phone- this is murder not a accident.

 

Failure to self-protect

Yea, unfortunately I have to agree with SOW.

When I first watched that shocking video, it just did not make sense.
And every time after, I still ask the question: When the car turned left, why not immediately run the bike to the right?

He rode into the lot like it was a one-way drive. It was not. Note the yellow dividing line.


And he crosses that line.



And continues Left of Center!
When the car turns left and heads down the drive, he is in the wrong spot.



Tons of space on the right.

Yes, he stops.

But he is still Left of Center.




Of course it is the responsibility of the other driver to avoid (by stopping or going around) another vehicle, no matter where it is, in the correct lane or not. There is plenty of room to do either. The other driver was intoxicated or otherwise impaired/distracted? Yes, I can see charges and fault being applied.

But the OP was NOT in a location he should have been, and he failed to take any evasive maneuver to assure his own safety.

I got into a flame war on YouTube a couple of years ago with some squid that espoused using his bike to "back down" a car, that was following too close, or driving improperly.
My assertion is that NO ONE with any sense who rides on 2 wheels would do anything other than preserve him or herself, and get AWAY from the improperly operated door-slammer.

There is a video link I posted that ended the conversation. If I find it, I'll put it here.

Ride defensively, don't trust anyone to see you or respect your space. Preserve yourself. Or don't ride.
As harsh at that may seem, it is the only way. I'd stop if I could not ride with that attitude.

 

I am not defending the OP's action or response, but I need to point out that the ultra-wide angle lense makes the parking lot appear much deeper than it was and the car looks much further away than it really was. I realized this after I got my new camera. While riding on a twisty road with it on, I saw a small pickup coming at me on the wrong side, he corrected in time, I was eager to view the video to see how close was it, but when I looked at it, I could hardly see the truck! It looked to be about twice as far away than it really was! Yes the OP should have immediately moved to the right because there was only about half the distance between them than the video would make you believe.

 

I think he is busy healing from his crash injuries and the kicking he got while he was down.

 

Yea, I'd be piling it on by kicking myself.
Not an easy time even if he wasn't injured.

 

Very good my man. So fine. You did this as an armchair quarterback, but this type of thinking should be reactionary by the time we pass from our learners to our full motorcycle license.

Hey people. Bike vs car, even a little car, the bike looses. If you haven't come to understand that concept, rid yourself of most dangers by loosing the bike and buying annual transit passes.

You know. To be hurt such as in this case, there needs to be three elements. An offender, a means and a victim. Take away just one of those elements and that parking lot became safer for this rider. It really does not matter if the other driver was drunk, stoned, incompetent, or out to kill you. It does not matter that he/she was driving a smart car or a Mac truck. Or even another bike. There is absolutely nothing you can do about that part of the equation by this time. But you can remove yourself from the equation. It is you that must take the first steps to protect your safety. The quickest step in this particular case was to GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY!

I hope OP realizes we feel for him and his injuries but we also want him to be safe.

 

I understand video compression, and how the appearance of distance can be deceiving.

But it is pretty easy to figure with reasonable accuracy how far away the car was at the time it turned the corner.

Parking lot spaces in shopping centers tend to be a little wider than in some locations, because patrons need to open doors wider to load goodies bought.
So we'll use convention and call them 10 ft. wide. I'd think that there were at least 15 of them between the rider and the car at the time of the freeze frame.
Anyway, not that close at that point in the incident.

A closer analysis could be had by viewing the location on Google Earth, and using the measuring tool.
Since the accident was not on a public road, the responding police may not have taken accurate measurements as part of the investigation.
But in any case, there was space, and time.
I feel for the OP, he could have stayed safe, by trying to.

If someone can't recognize, process, and very quickly respond to potential danger, he or she should take all precautions to increase the odds in favor of personal safety. For some people, that would mean not riding a motorcycle.

I instruct in an international program for teen drivers. I have on occasion told parents that I was concerned about their child for the very reason just stated above. One new driver in particular seemed to lack the ability to comprehend the proximity of objects in front of the car. I hope they took my comments seriously, along with the advice to have depth perception checked, and wait several years before letting the kid drive solo. No malice or ill will intended then or now. Too many people die or are maimed in motor vehicle accidents, simply because they don't understand their own limitations, and/or remain aware of the constant threat that being on the road brings.
I drive a car in a relaxed state. But it does not mean that I lose focus on what I am doing.
I'm not tensed up when I ride a motorcycle, but always maintain a heightened sense of awareness. If I couldn't, I'd quit doing it.

 

I agree with you, he had 7.1 seconds from the time he turned into the lot till impact. More than ample time to react. Novice rider with previous accidents by his own admission. Maybe more of a case of deer in the headlights, assuming driver was going to avoid him. I was just trying to point out the differences between the video and reality. I think others with helmet cams will agree.

 

Perhaps he only has 1 eye and no depth perception?

 

I'm with Allyance on the camera "distortion" of reality, they do make things look different than what they are. Similar to mirrors that state "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear". This is not to say I hold the rider completely blameless but looking at video, although helps determine what actually happened better than eyewitness reports, is not a true reality for judging distance.

 

That would be member "Dead Eye Dick" AKA Carpy (True story) :wink:

All joking aside, at night human vision is much less than in the day and judging distance can be even more difficult as its harder to see reference points. It way also be harder to wee what's on either side of you when you have headlights shining in your eyes.

 

The velocity of both vehicles is unknown as is the Fstop of the camera lens. There is less compression in an "automatic" lens when the lighting is dim.

We d0 have one guy here that has no sight in one eye.. Gotta go with Gman on this one.

One of the great myths around is that everyone can ride a motorcycle. What a crock!