Solution for Rider fatigue

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  1. Marrib

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    Got mine installed for the trip back from Vegas. Significant reduction in right hand buzz (didn't notice as much in the left hand since it wasn't on the bars for most of the ride). Definitely worth the $90.

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    anybody in SF CA or greater bay area with convertiBARS or LSL Speigler kit that i can see on their VFR ?
     


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    Ordered my set on Monday - got notification today that they've shipped. Once I get these + the Pro Grips installed I anticipate greatly increased comfort for my hands!
     


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    An excellent product!! They work exactly as advertised by eliminating vibration on my '99. No buzzing all the way to redline...gotta love 'em.
     


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    I noticed the bars on my 3rd gen aren't completely hollow? I don't think these things will fit a 3rd gen bar...can anyone confirm please?

    How ever I would be willing to drill them out...
     


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    The bars on my 6th gen weren't hollow either. There is an insert that easily comes out. I don't know about the 3rd gens, maybe someone can confirm.... Don does include a tool that goes in the bar, screws into the insert, then you unscrew the insert and it comes out....
     


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    My vibranators showed up Friday (shipped Wednesday!). Got the chance to install them this weekend. The tool included to remove the mount for the current bar ends (thats why your bars aren't hollow) was definitely convenient, but definitely not necessary. The throttle side innards disintegrated to the point where I couldnt use the tool. However I was able to use the original bolt, screw it into what was left the threads and just pull out the remains.

    Installation itself was a breeze. Just insert into the bar, tighten the bolt and voila all done. Took maybe 30 seconds. Too bad the weather was and still is crap or I'd get a ride with them in!

    I will say the quality is quite high and I love the look. Just can't wait to see how they feel.
     


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    Just start your bike. Feel the vibrations (even at idle) on your fairing. Now the difference when just holding the throttle. You'll be thanking VFRChick for years to come.

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    I just ordered mine. Thanks for all the great info!
     


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    Has anyone else tried to put these on a 4th gen? On my bars, the inner part that the bar end screws into seems to be one piece with the bar itself, not removable. The vibranators seem to be very well made, high quality. I wish I could put them on the bike...
     


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    Mine arrived today. ...now it's time to see if I can rig it to work with the Throttlemeister. :)
     


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    Got mine, will install on weekend. Very excited.
     


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    So I just finished installing them on my VFR1200 with the Throttlemeister. ...I'll see how they work tomorrow. :)

    Making them work with the Throttlemeister isn't that big a deal (if you have a lathe or a nearby machine shop with one). I should have taken pics, but I didn't. ...and because I suck (and am lazy) I'm not taking it apart to take some. ;)

    I will do my best to explain the process:

    Basically, for the 7th gen anyway, you need to order the basic kit (the cheapest one, with no bar end weights) and tell Don what bike it's for so he can include the right diameter rubber bits.

    You will need to source a stainless steel M8 (x70mm - 80mm) bolt for the clutch side.
    You will need a headless M8 bolt as well (doesn't need to be more than 15mm, but should be at least 10mm)

    ...and you need that lathe & a tap set.

    On the lathe, you need to take the Throttlemeister insert for the throttle side and drill out the opposite end from the weight using a 6.75mm bit. I drilled mine about 10mm deep. Now you need to tap this hole to accept one end of the headless M8 bolt.

    ...I actually just paid a local machinist $20 cash to do this for me, it took him about 5 minutes.

    You are going to thread the Vibranator onto the other end of the headless M8 and insert the whole assembly into the bar, using the same fastening hardware that came with the Throttlemeister.

    The Vibranator uses a 9mm open-end wrench to tighten.

    Also on the lathe, you need to turn the keyed end off the spacer that came with the TM for inside the clutch side weight; you just want to make it flat (it has a tab on it that locks into the OEM bar insert).

    You also need to bore the center out to allow the M8 bolt to pass through it.

    This is the side you need the longer bolt for. The M8 that comes with the Vibranator is too short to work with the TM bar weight.

    Once you have the spacer flattened and bored out you can assemble the Vibranator for the clutch side.
    Put the spacer in the weight and run the M8 bolt through.
    Place one of the rubber sections that came with the Vibranator onto the bolt and follow it with one of the aluminum nuts from Vibranator (toothy side toward the rubber).
    You will need an allen wrench (I use a socket) to turn the bolt to compress the rubber between the nut and the spacer in the weight.
    Now you should have enough thread exposed to screw on the Vibranator.

    You want the rubber compressed just enough to make it fit in the bar snugly.

    Press the assembly into the bar and tighten the M8 bolt until the weight is secure.

    ...done!
     


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    Thanks for sharing this ZenMoto. Let us know how it performs. If you have good results, I'll share your installation with Don so he will have a temp solution for anyone with Throttlemeister... until they develop their own...
     


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    Well, rode into work today, and while my hands didn't go numb (it's not a very long ride) I'm not convinced there's a huge difference yet. It feels like it may have moved the worst of the vibrations to a different rev-range at least.

    I'll need to get a real ride under my belt to see how it really works, but first I need new tires! lol ...hey, I can handle some buzzing, as long as my hands don't go numb; I'm hopeful this will do the trick! :)
     


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    Well, the verdict is in. ...unfortunately, it seems that the Vibranator when equipped with a Throttlemeister, does not work. ...it may have even made the problem worse. :( Less than 2 miles into the canyons and my hand was already numb.

    I'm going to get in touch with Don and see if I can order the bar weights that go with them and try removing the Throttlemeister, just to see if they will work standalone.

    The vibes in my throttle hand are just too much, and it's hard to have confidence riding aggressively when I can't feel my right hand!

    ...back to the drawing board!
     


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    There is a throttle lock that mounts in between the grip and the switch housing. Works extremely well. I have had one on my last 3 bikes, including my present 2004 VFR. I believe its called the "Cam Lock". Unfortunately, I can't recall the website but Google "Cam Lock" and it will come up. Unlike the throttlemeister, your hand doesn't even have to leave the throttle grip. You use your thumb the activate the throttle lock. I think it's around 125.00. A bit pricey but works well.
     


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    Got mine in the mail yesterday and installed them.
    My Grip Puppies came the same day as well, so i put them on.

    After my 20min ride to work, my finger tips were tingling, not numb, but on there way there. Might have been me though, and how i was gripping the bike, was very windy today on the interstate.

    I would say that its at least a 50% difference from stock. Vibration is still there, and not really even close to being gone, but it did help.

    I still dont think it was a waste of money though, and this was my first ride with them. And im sure i need to learn to loosen up on the bike, which just adds to the numbness problem.

    In any case, great recommendation vfrchick! Thanks!
     


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    I'm wondering if maybe an electric bike might not be the best thing for that uber smooth ride? Or, if one is a real prevert just buy a Harley.

    This brings up another question. Anybody use a set of these on a Harley?

    No need to fess up if ya own one. Make your response sound anecdotal.
     


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    I'm thinking you have bigger problems if your fingers are already tingling after 20 minutes. Front wheel bearings could be going or if your bike is carb'ed the jetting may not be right. Assuming you aren't a novice rider with a death grip on the bars.
     


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