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power commander on a 98?

Discussion in '5th Generation 1998-2001' started by sportbiker929, Jan 20, 2007.

  1. hollenbeck

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    Ok guys I need some help please! I have a 01 vfr800 intercepter with an power commander 2 and the light on screen where fuel ratio is, is at the bottom and I can't change it I've tried, can anyone tell me where I can get a map for it,and do I hav e to unplug it to send mapprpt
     


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  2. hollenbeck

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    dude I need that disk lol is there anyway you can send me a map for pc2
     


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    I got 98hp on the dyno when I ran mine. That was before I did the valve check. I replaced 11 shims and it runs much better. I haven't had it dynoed since.
     


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    Well well, looky what thread I found.. :) Time I get a PCIII.
     


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    For your information you may use a PCV.

    1) Dynojet will not provide any support (just quoting them.)
    2) There are no Dynojet stock maps for our bikes
    3) The physical connection is the same
    4) The harness for the V may be shorter due to the Gen 6 design, which makes it barely long enough for Gen 5. My mechanic had to create shortcuts for routing the harness. He swore himself to sleep that night.
    5) V allows you to add auto tune

    Mine is connected but I never got the time on the dyno that I thought I would get so I do not have a tuned map to share, nor have I found one elsewhere.
     


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    I had a conversation a few times today with Dyno Jet, and they still say they have the PC3 stuff, what ever that means, and yes they said the PCV is available for our 5th gens, but their web site says different. I needed to get clarity on that one and of coarse he was all about that was the one to get, I still wasn't convinced . From that I'll look for a PC3, besides, they seem to cost less as well. I'm sorta lucky I guess in that one of the best VFR tuners is just a few miles away, I wouldn't even start to do any maps until it's on the dyno where he can fiddle, goal here is to match RWs which I had the pleasure of taking for a spin back in the day. Wonder where that bike is now?
     


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    Yes you are lucky to know a tuner. Every shop in my metro area has at least some severe complaints online.
     


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    The only option that you have for ignition adjustability is the "Rapid Bike Racing module" made by Dimsport. I have one on my 2007, the added ignition advance make a huge difference in low to mid range torque.
     


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    now to find out if they are 5th gen user friendly. I did talk with Mike today and found that the way to go is the PC3, so if anyone here has one that's not being used, lets chat.
     


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    Is Mike aware that the PC V works with this bike?
     


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    Yep, but there's things that's not in tune with the 5th gen, one we have no O2, that and the wire harness is a PITA. plus found out there's a ignition timing thingamajig available as well as the accelerator pump so #3 is looking good as the #1 option.
     


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    Oh yes, timing advance is only on the PCIII. I wonder why they removed timing adjustability from the VFR devices after that?

    I cannot wait to see your posted power numbers!
     


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    Bah, I'm jealous! Good luck with the tune and keep us posted with the graph and map.

    On a side note, anyone have a good VFR tuner in the lower NY area?
     


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    No the PCii had the built in timing advance and by this time all the pcii's are dead or close to it.

    The pciii and PVC have an optional add on ignition module, but it is not compatible with the VFR.

    Again, this is why I said the rapid bike is your only option for timing adjustability on the vfr800.

    The 2006 plus can be reflashed, but I don't think anyone has yet.
    You could always fab up a timing plate, but then your stuck with a preset advance everywhere and running 4 degrees advance at idle is not good and neither is 4 degrees advance at redline.

    Honestly, from what I have seen, the 6th gen VTEC models love added advance in the midrange (4 or 5 degrees), but the fifth gens don't seem to like more than two degrees.

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    Thanks for that info Candy. Do you know, was there a PC 4?
     


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    No problem. There was no pc4.

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    So it was like The Traveling Wilburys albums, Volume 1, then Volume 3. Hrm. Must be a real joker at Dynojet.
     


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    PCii
    PCiii
    PCV

    Yeah I don't know what their problem is. I personally feel its a rip off.

    "You want fuel only? Okay PCV. ignition? Okay ignition module. Quick shifter? Okay we got a quick shifter module. Auto tune? Yup you guessed right. We got an auto tune module too!"

    These clowns make the PCV by itself do nothing but fuel. Then by the time you add enough modules and wire harnesses to your bike to have a decent setup, you could have just bought a Rapid Bike Racing, with out having a billion wires and boxes all over your bike. You'd save money too.

    As you can tell, I am not a fan of power commander. And bazzaz is the same story.

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    I am glad for this comparison feedback. I was going to add an autotune or wideband 2. But I have no actual problems, the bike rides great, so I may not continue to buy the extras. As someone else said I might just use that cash to take my honey out instead.

    Can you refer me to any resouces on using Accelerator Pump functions? The best input I have from blogs is, "This improved the 5th gen." But I am unable to find technical data on the need for this function on modern fuel injected bikes, whereas in the carburetor the accel pump fulfilled a quantifiable purpose.
     


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    I have used the accelerator pump feature. Again, nothing worth writing home about.

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