Official Rapid Bike Race and Evo Group Buy!!!

Okay and as stated, the full 100% throttle "roll on dyno chart" is from the much cheaper, fuel only evo module. I am working on getting the 100% chart from the racing module.

Also, as stated earlier, the reason for the high cost of the Rapid Bike Racing module is due to the fact that it is comparable to a Power Commander 5, plus Ignition Module, plus Auto Tune module. With the ignition module not even being available from dyno jet for the vfr800. Also all the Rapid Bikes (Evo and Racing) have the ability to run the dual factory narrow band o2 sensors (standard) or 1/2/4 Bosch wide band o2 sensors (optional).

More over, the Rapid Bike Racing module has the ability to support traction control as well as launch control and quick shifting with separate shift cut times by programmable rpm zones.

With all that being said, if you over look all of these included features and just scan right to the peak HP gain, then yes you should probably just go trade your vfr for a blackbird or gixxer, as you fail to understand that just fuel and ignition tuning on a 100% stock 95whp bike will not magically create an additional 10% plus peak whp without supporting modifications. It will create around close to 10% more power and torque through the midrange/lowend and partial throttle (actually 42% more peak power at 13% throttle!!!) and basically everywhere you spend 90% of your time driving, but the top end factory ignition tuning of the vfr is basically spot on and furthermore, the topend fueling is just a little rich for a stock vfr and about spot on for a modified vfr.

I hope this makes it a little easier for you to understand the pricing for the rapid bike, what features you are getting for your money and why you will not see major peak horsepower gains with out adding supporting modifications....

 

The curve spacing looks huge, because from 11 HP to 15.6 hp is a 42% horsepower gain, that is why it looks huge, because it is huge.... I feel like most of this thread is going over your head.


Also worth noting is the group buy was completed in September on vfrdiscussion.com with over 20 modules, far surpassing the ten modules that we needed to put this into production. So if this product interests you go ahead and do your research and buy if you like. If not, move along to something more productive, no big deal.

 

Yeah, fine, it improves the traterrific torque of a v-four and improves drivability.

Where is the 5th gen version?

Jose

 

Lol yeah beating a dead horse all day.

 

Vfrdiscussion members Mohawk and highsideNZ have confirmed that the avaliable sixth gen rapid bikes fit the fifth gen fine. Fuelling adjustments and auto tuning function as stated but the ignition map will need to be custom dyno tuned, as the ignition mapping of the sixth gen is different than the fifth gen.

Dimsport would be more than happy to release a fifth gen specific wire harness and fuel/ignition maps, we just need a fifth gen owner in Italy to step up to the plate and drop their bike off at the dimsport facility for a week to prototype.

 

Do you have a 98-99 or a 00-01? As the 98-99s do not have factory o2 sensors....

 

Mine is a 2000. We need an Italian member to step up to the plate. Or for a German or French member to take a road trip. If we sent them an ECU would that be good enough to make a harness?

Jose

 

Okay that's good that you have a 2000, so you already have o2 sensors. So you don't need to purchase any additional o2 sensors or modules.

The 6th gen harness fits the fifth gen bike fine, but if they were going to sell it for the fifth gen Dimsport would need to design it from the ground up themselves. They will want the whole bike, not just ecu. Its not necessary, but that is how they run their business.

The harness isn't the big issue, as its proven to work. The real issue is the ignition mapping. No one has made an ignition map yet. This isn't a big issue, its just an inconvenience. You can still run a zero ignition map and have a custom ignition map made on a dyno.

But really none of this matters as you have already said you just want the evo module, so you are fine.

 

Totally SWEET! Rapid ECU is officially on the I WANT ONE list along with a Jamie D shock and drop in cartridge fork kit.

Now .... to devise a dastardly plan for sneaking the purchases into the family budget.

Jose

 

Here's a couple videos of testing out the youtune module, launch control and traction control. I have the launch control set to hold at 9,000 RPM's. Once it detects a 500 RPM drop, it moves on to the second stage (traction control) which limits output until reaching 11,000 RPMs. You will hear some missfires in this second stage. After Passing 11,000 RPM's you reach the third stage and you have full power again.


https://youtu.be/siCAJc_YpKM




https://youtu.be/3QPJA5Ao-bw

 

Also heads up to the fifth gen guys, Rapid bike modules are now available to you too.

 

Sidebar:

CandyRed is an engineering type who makes his VFR very speedy and has the evidence to prove it. He may be a real engineer by now.. No need for this stuff on the mach 1 91 and the 1200 is so fast , the throttle position seems directly proportional to the pucker factor.

We now come once again to the minor subject of SOW who is a living example of the now aboot thirty year old internet example of artificial intelligence called "Eliza". I always thought Eliza was more an electronic parrot than a source of knowledge or thinking. Same with SOW only less so. Much less.

 

Yeah those 1200's are awesome pieces of machinery. Slip on+filter+Decat+ reflash = 165 wheel horse power. And that's through a power sapping shaft drive too! Also I always had a soft spot for all white third gens with high mount pipes. Those are a timeless classic.

Side note, I landed an engineering job at Leidos engineering. Unfortunately its not building race bikes, but it pays the bills lol

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Happy graduation and finding a job too. Maybe your employer can pop for a sticker or two on your quarter miler..

I got used to shafts on a BMW I have. BMWs jack up a bit in corners but it's predictable. MotoGuzzis at least the older ones did about the same thing. I think that's fixed now, Same with the Beemers.. Beemers require some (it can be pricey) special lube work on the ring and pinion. Honda not so much. Yeah, they do eat up ponies but not chains or sprockets..

BB in the first or second or even third person does not need 165 rear wheel HP on a bike. Well, maybe if I had a 1200lb Harley... and that ain't gonna happen..

Any latest timing slips?

I grew up about 1/4 mile from the old Lions Drag Strip in Long Beach, CA. Rode a Gold Star flat tracker there a couple of times and a much modded Vincent drag bike a couple of times. Nothing like the monsters that are running now..

 

No unfortunately I haven't drag raced the bike in a while. Right now its geared for the interstate with 17/43 sprockets. I would need to get the 15/43 back on there before hitting the strip again, but I do too much highway riding for that. Maybe I'll just buy an extra 15t front and slap it on for a few weeks this winter, when it starts cooling down.

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