My free 1990

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  1. gcvt

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    Thanks for the welcomes in the “Introductions” forum!

    Got my free ’90 home on Monday evening. It was a gift from the second owner who is a long time friend. The original owner is another long time friend so I have good resources to go to on this one. It’s got F4i/Superhawk fully adjustable forks, a Bitubo rear shock, and Remus high pipe.

    It’s been sitting for a while so I am going to begin going through it this weekend. Plan for this weekend is a thorough cleaning, oil change, coolant change, new plugs, new battery, and see where that gets me. Other things on the to do list are chain/sprockets, brake fluid, charging system check, air filter, new tires, normal pegs, etc.

    There is old gas in the tank so I’m guessing there is also old gas in the float bowls. Really would rather not pull the carbs but I might have to. On the upside, there is not a single spot of rust inside the tank thankfully.

    - Greg

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    Looking good! Get that motor running!

    Riding on the storm
     
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    Hopefully this free bike does not end up being the most expensive bike you have bought so far. :drink1:
     
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    Looking good !!! Especially at that cost.
     
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    ^ Thanks everyone. Judging by who it came from, I'm pretty confident it just needs the normal stuff to get it back on the road. I don't expect any big problems (knock on wood).

    Went to my local O'Reilley Auto Parts store today to get some coolant. While I was there, I was amazed to find a K&N 303 oil filter for $17.99 and four NGK CR8EH-9's for $6.49 per plug, which is half what my local 'motorcycle' shops charge for the same plugs :Smile: I'll pick up a new battery Friday morning; if it's not already wetted up and charged, I have a jumper battery I can use in the meantime for testing purposes.

    My biggest concern, at this point, is the key situation. Since the forks were swapped, the ignition key is non-Honda and pretty sketchy. The original key works perfectly on the gas cap, but not on the helmet lock/seat release. Been lubing everything up with WD-40 but if I can't get the seat off, I've got a problem on my hands.
     
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    Folks been havin' issues with em' K&N oil filters.. if it has the "Bolt head" on it, Bewareth!

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    I had not heard. I could return it. I wouldn't use the bolt head, but a strap wrench instead. If the bolt head is the only issue with them...? The advice is much appreciated!
     
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    NO on the K&N filter. Mucho Problems I have heard. Just a opinion. You can get a OEM filter for $11 and some change online. I did so yesterday.
     
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    Some people use them with no issues, one sure case has been where the bolt head was used for tightening abd the filter blew up.

    Some have reported them breaking even when the filter was tightened by hand, holding the filter by its sides.

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    Thank you for the information. I will return the K&N tomorrow and pick up an OEM filter when I'm out battery shopping on Friday morning.

    If I can't find OEM, what other aftermarket filters should I be looking for?
     
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    Update: Returned the K&N filter but they didn't have a replacement available. Will hit up a couple moto stores tomorrow.

    Went out to the garage this morning to spray down all the locks with WD40 again. The ignition is getting better. Still can't get the seat off though. The non-Honda ignition key fits in the helmet lock/seat release but will not turn. The Honda key that fits the gas cap won't fit in the helmet lock/seat release at all. Hmm.
     
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    PB Blaster, or any other penetrating oil, would be a much better option for loosening stuck threads/ tumblers etc. WD-40 gets sticky when it dries. That's why it's great at coating things that you don't want to rust over time.
     
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    True. I've got some PB Blaster around somewhere - I'll have to dig that up.
     
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    I just dipped the key in spare engine oil and wiggled it around in the lock. Got my Ignition issues sorted. I guess it's still worn out but works for now.

    I've used gun grease in locks for years. Seems to be great for that purpose. Even the small spray cans work.

    It would be nice to have one key fit all locks, but at around 30 years, that becomes a rare luxury item.

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    ^ That's a great idea! I've got some unused Sig Sauer lube laying around.

    Made a little progress today:

    1. Finally got the helmet lock/seat release working so I can now get the seat off.
    2. Met the owner for beers and got the title from him.
    3. Borrowed a brake bleeder.

    The owner told me he did in fact drain the float bowls and turned off the fuel before putting it up, so that is great news.
    Tomorrow, the work begins!
     
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    You can find the OEM. Even if you have to go a dealer it is only like 13-14 bucks. Cheaper than 17!;-) The only time I personally have gone after market is if that part is super more expensive, but that is for you to decide. I would do a search online for other after market options if that is where you want to go but for a filter go to the dealer or online and wait 2 days. As far as a battery hell ya look online. Much cheaper prices on quality batteries. You can find a shitty battery for much less anywhere, but you will replace it in a year or two saving $30 or $4o buck but you are still going to pay at least 60-100 for a cheap one and pay more in the end by doing so. Good Luck!
     
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    Thanks for the help. There is no more Honda dealer on the San Francisco side of the bay, and I'm not dealing with the traffic and bridge tolls to make it over to Berkeley and back on a Friday haha. I'll pick up a filter in town tomorrow so I can get the oil done, and then I'll order OEM filters online after that. I'll probably change the oil fairly soon again after this initial change. As for the battery, I'm looking at the Yuasa AGM locally.

    My buddy is the service manager at the local Ducati shop so I can get discounts through him. That should be quite helpful. I'll visit his shop first tomorrow.
     
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    I've been totally satisfied with all oil filters, be it OEM or not. K&N just has added bad engineering to their otherwise good product.

    I'd use any 'brand' oil filter happily if OEM was out of reach.

    Might be worth a buck or two, if they could do a basic safety inspection on the bike.
     
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    Started tearing in to it today. First, I wanted to drain the tank. Looks like the emissions equipment has already been removed.

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    Then it was on to the coolant, oil, and plugs.

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    The coolant in the reservoir was pretty nasty but the rest didn't look bad.

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    The oil I drained out looked brand new. Former owner told me today that he changed the oil every 1500 miles so I guess that makes sense.

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    Not sure what happened to the intake?? Former owner doesn't remember it looking like this.

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    While I had the coolant drained, I went ahead and got the radiator out of the way so I could get at the front plugs.

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    After I got everything back together, I put some fresh gas in the tank and hooked it up to the jumper battery to see if it would start. It ran a few times but only briefly. Then I noticed the massive fuel leak which looks to be coming from the left rear carb :Yell: Maybe a stuck float?

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    Great work on the bike and a good writeup, WITH PICS! Yay!

    Hopefully that leak is something small. Check petcock and all fuel connections. Hope you get it on the road soon!

    Cheers!

    Riding on the storm
     
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