My 1986 VF500F revival

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    Well, it's totally the RH control pod that was causing the spark issue.

    I cleaned the contacts and the button, worked the kill switch a bit, fired right up.

    Working on acquisition of a 90s VFR control pod with a better start button and we will see where we're at after that

    Good to hear her run

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    now that you can warmup the engine, how about doing a compression test ?
     
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    I need to get the proper plug removal tool.

    Looks like NGKs in there.. so probably 18mm?

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    wait a sec, 'scuse me. :rolleyes: you claim you did all this good work without a plug wrench ? the OEM toolkit plug wrench [socket+extension] is better than most, find one on the bay cuz you need one.

    maybe i missed a chapter of this long thread and missed that detail ? pardon my sorry ass please :confused:
     
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    Runs. Charging system good. 14.25 at idle. High beams and winkers still 14.2

    Don't have the throttle cables hooked up, they are a royal B I T CH to hook up.


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    Yeah no I don't have the proper plug wrench. Whatever the PO had in there

    Trust. If I could find the right Honda tool, I would have it

    Anyone have a good PN for a Honda toolkit plug wrench that fits the 500?

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    That's a superficial way to check. There's more to it. How is the stator output and resistance?
     
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    89216-438-000
     
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    I see the PN but none on ebay

    There must be a similar Honda factory tool that works
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    I'm assuming the stator is good since the regulator can hold it at 14.xx volts.

    If it were bad would the voltage not be lower?

    And if one leg.of the stator were open to ground, the voltage would be much
    lower
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    I wouldn't worry about trying to find that. Just use the correct metric deep socket.
     
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    id guess its the same wrench for all VFs and most VFRs up to 1989.
     
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    Length is important with this one

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    Unless you have the radiator and tank off, the plug wrench out of the tool kit is the best choice. You might have to get an 1/8 turn, flip the wrench over for another 1/8 and repeat, but it will get the job done and be able to snake out of the hole behind the rad and out the side of the frame on the rears.

    I *think* the 86 VFR one is the right length too.

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    You can buy one that is too long, even a generic one, as long as it has the rubber insert to hold the plug. Cut it to the perfect length and have a 12mm head bolt welded in.

    Think Baz did something similar?
     
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    I like this idea

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    Once again, Tapatalk phone app is being a bitch to log into. Had to dig out the laptop.

    91 VFR control pod is here. it looks like the wires all match up in the plugs. although 2 of the wires change color, the plug works, light on and starter engages.

    Strangely, there is no locator pin on the 86 control pod but there is a hole in the bar..is there supposed to be one on the 86?

    but the hole is too close to the brake/mirror assembly so I will have to drill a new hole. Not today, have family stuff and birthday to "celebrate" ha!
     
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    The 86 def had a pin.

    Before drilling, remove the master and install the switch, then see if you might have just enough room to reinstall. I know the early masters are a little bulkier in the clamp area compared to later designs, but there may be a work around if there simply is not enough room. Perhaps by using just a newer, slimmer style front clamp that the bolts go thru.

    Or is it because the pin is on the other side of the switch housing? Drilling a new hole for a proper switch isn't the end of the world I suppose.

    Have a great day.
     
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    Pulling apart connectors behind the cowl today.

    Found a couple of darkened corroded looking spades there.. in the key switch connection.
    Namely the red wires.

    Got some voltage variation also when I wiggle the key.. will probably pull the key selector switch and Maybe clean the inside contacts.. I hate doing that. Usually the springs and balls go flying

    Going to pin out and sand the spade connectors here in the next few days.

    Fun fun

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