I'm Really Disappointed At Honda.

Discussion in 'General VFR Discussions' started by OCLandspeeder, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. NorcalBoy

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    Welcome back, but you are gonna wish you never did :Boom:
     
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    Ha ha.
     
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    I took my 2004 VFR touring last fall. Look at the Chicken Strips! How embarrassing . . . :Behindsofa:


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    I didn't say it produced more torque and neither has Honda.
     
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    I posted a dyno chart for my 2004. Not surprisingly, the torque "curve" shows two distinct stages, one above and one below the VTEC actuation point. Anyone have actual dyno data from an 8th Gen or are we all using the butt-dyno? I am curious.
     
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    As comparison, my brand new 1997 VFR750 dyno'd at the rear wheel with 90.1 hp and 49 lbs torque after having the idle jets drilled and dropped.
     
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    OCLandspeeder,
    This isn't Honda's problem. The VFR is not underpowered in the slightest. Surely one shouldn't blame a pick-up truck for not having the power of a Kenworth or a Ferrari for not being able to carry your hockey bag and two hockey sticks. It sounds to me like you need two bikes. (Do not tell my wife you heard me say that!) Your VFR for most of your biking needs and an R1 or an FJR for your over the top power needs. Yes you are giving up comfort with the R1 and adding weight with the FJR but that's the reality we riders are faced with.
    Regarding your search for more power,... I take it you are just looking for a power rush? You never really gave details as to when or why you are running out of power on your VFR. If 2 bikes won't work then maybe some badass engine modifications to your VFR will suffice. I hope you find what you are looking for. Sometimes the looking is half the fun.
    Cheers
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    I like my VFR, but there ARE motorcycles that can do it all as well or better than the VFR. BMW makes a sports tourer. The R1250RS 136 HP, 105.4 ft/lbs torque, 535.7 lbs., fully adjustable suspension. The VFR makes 104 HP, 55.3 ft/lbs or torque, and weighs 526.9 lbs., rudimentary suspension. All figures are as claimed by the manufacturer. A buyer doesn't have to choose between comfort and power, sportiness or touring.
     
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    Alaskan, I have said this before but it’s worth repeating, compare the price of the BMW R1250 RS to the price of the VFR. For the money it costs I still believe the VFR is a great buy. As for being underpowered only a very small percentage of riders can ride anything over 600cc to the bikes limit, drag racing excepted. We would all like to believe it’s the lack of power holding us back but for most of us (exceptions to every rule) myself included I have bad news. I have toured on my 8th gen with panniers tank bag and a dry bag, I weigh 105kg (wait for the fat bastard comments) and I never felt I needed more power. 6F8FB883-B301-404B-96DC-3E48D05067DA.jpeg
     
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    The thing to remember is the last model years of the VFR 800 imported to the U.S. were 2014/2015 and that bike is based heavily on the previous generation vfr that was released in 2002. Same frame, sss, vtec, with changes to the cooling system and some additional changes to smooth out the power delivery, low exit exhaust, delinked brakes I believe. The design is old but remains an effective tool and doesn’t require a huge initial investment. It’s an affordable exotic.
     
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    No problem. I have a VFR and a R1200RS, among other motorcycles. The BMW and the Honda are both fine motorcycles. I kind of enjoy the extra power and torque of the BMW when I am touring, but sometimes I prefer the VFR. In my post I wasn't trying to disrespect the VFR; I was responding to your post setting up a dichotomy between power and comfort, touring or sport. There ARE other motorcycles that do it as well as or better than the VFR.
     
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    Point taken Alaskan, however the original post wasn’t mine, I was just chipping in with my 2 cents worth.
     
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