I have a question about getting a VFR800f

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  1. redcomet

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    Hi there, I am from South Korea and I am planning to add another bike besides my CB400SB.
    In Korea only 02' 6th gen vfr800f and 17' 8th gen are available in second hands market. I saw both versions a few days ago in the flesh and I found myself more attracted by 6th gen vfr.

    I wonder is there any improvements in new version from 6th gen? and worth to pay for a big money.
    Thing is 8th gen is very high at price here. It costs me around 14,000 usd to get a second hands one.
    If there are not much differences between them, I would get 6th gen one which is at 5,000 usd.

    -Hanmin
     
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    I have no personal experience so far with the gen6, but was recently faced with the same choice. I was able calm my decision paralysis by searching the forums for a couple hours (generation specific threads are great for spotting trends in problems), your time will be worth the investment. the general feeling from the gen6 and gen8 owners here I got was that the gen6 is amazing all around. and so is the gen8 :) it comes down to your personal preference, only understood by sitting/riding them. No huge stat differences or generation specific problems that I could find. there were three main issues that affected my decision: 1. price. 2. charging system issue on the gen6. 3. ergonomics.

    1. price- I got very lucky here and found a gen8 2015 deluxe for $6k otd. that was the deciding factor for me. love it! if I had been facing $14k, I would have picked up the gen6 in a heartbeat. both AWESOME!

    2. charging system issue- the only real "problem trend" I saw about the gen6 is a problem with the charging system, I think some failed regulators. resolved by the time they started gen7, according to other forum posters. according to member "skimad4x4", he said "Early 6th Gens had lots of issues with the RR and the connector to the stator and melted main fuse housing by the battery terminals. So take a torch and make sure you lift the seat and inspect the state of the charging system wiring."

    Doesn't seem to be anything to push you away from the bike, not too expensive. just be aware of and budget for it. for the $9k usd difference, heck yeah get that gen6! Be sure to ask for service records regarding the issue. previous owner may have already addressed it. there are some very good threads on here from riders that have executed the repair themselves. I haven't seen any trends of component failures on the gen 8 yet. If your heart is pushing you to the 6th gen looks, then imho, listen to it. its all about the love and connection, man!
    a good recent thread about buying a gen6 and what to look for:
    https://vfrworld.com/threads/what-to-look-for-when-buying-used.57738/#post-609098
    a thread on regulator repair/replacement. its for gen5, but same issue:
    https://vfrworld.com/threads/how-to-fix-common-regulator-stator-failures.39277/

    3. ergonomics- I havent been on a gen6 in months and only rode it once, but it felt like the ergonomics were a little more open, vertical, easier for me on long rides. it may have just been how the seller had configured it. the gen8 stock ergos feel like a fairly tight sport posture to me. I'm 6'3", and my knees are pretty cramped. I like aggressive seating, but i would cramp a bit, legs would tire more easily, and the tight position created pressure points between my butt and the seat that started to hurt pretty quick. there is a lot of chat about ergonomics changes in the gen 8, so get sit time on the bikes if you consider yourself especially tall or short. Plenty of aftermarket parts available to easily adjust ergonomics, so don't let that scare you off either, just an expense to keep in mind. My lowered pegs (1.5" drop) were aout $150 usd, and bar risers were about $80 (for 1.25" increase in height). The lowered pegs REALLY helped relax my legs and I actually feel more in tune with the bike now. easier to push down on pegs on the twisties, etc. opening up my legs puts more of my glutes on the seat and takes the pressure of those bony hot spots, so it looks like i wont have to buy an alternate seat. I havent installed the bar risers yet, waiting to see if I can adjust without them, or if weekend trips will be too much for my back to be bent over.

    of course there are some updates available like traction control, abs, etc. but they are negligible for me. if the look and feel is good to you, I don't see or feel any stat differences that would really push me to the gen 8 over the 6. its just about the feel and the love, man. I can't say enough good things about this forum. I have been able to resolve every single question or concern I've had by reading here.

    You can't go wrong with either bike... trust your gut. and... ENJOY!!! congrats on your new ride!
     
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    Stock fuelling on the 8th gen has no noticeable VTEC transition

    There’s also ABS and traction control if that makes any difference, I like them both
     
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    I got a Gen5 because I didn't want Vtec, but glad to hear the Gen8 is better. Thanks for the explanation guys! I sat on a 2015 pearl white yesterday at a dealer, only has 7500 kms. on it and asking C$9800...... one could be in my future one day, but I gotta wear out the Gen5 first...
    redcomet, I'd just go with your gut instinct, or be patient for another used one to come along. I think you'll enjoy whichever one you get.
     
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    Thank you very much for your wonderful answer with so much detail! It has been hugely helped!
    Hanmin
     
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    Thank you for the information. :)
     
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    Not sure what you decided, but the VTEC transition on a 6th Gen can be smoothed with a few parts and a dynotune all for under $900.
     
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    I brought a 6th gen home yesterday. It is a Rothmans custom colored.
    Could you please let me know what the parts are?
     
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    Where are you located? The easiest way to tune the EFI is to find a good dynotuner/shop to do the work. I have a Dynojet Power Commander and a customized map from a local dynojet tuner.
     
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    Look at Rapid Bike Evo, which sorts out the fuelling, or Racing which allows you to alter ECU settings, rev limit, etc
     
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    Redcomet,
    You saved $9000 AND now own one of the best bikes ever made! In Rothmans colours to boot,... wow!
    Cheers
    Steve
     
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    :worthless:

    Congratulations!! Pictures would be nice.
     
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