Discovered a Great Shock Upgrade for 5th Gen

Discussion in '5th Generation 1998-2001' started by DaHose, Feb 17, 2018.

  1. DaHose

    DaHose New Member

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    This one has 4 days to go, and is at just under $150. Wonder what it will actually sell for?

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/17-Kawasaki-Ninja-ZX-10R-ZX10R-Rear-Shock-Mount-Linkage-119D/362480008175?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=9&asc=20140905073823&meid=8f9ee69959b2490db2d55a112b5ae895&pid=100284&rk=1&rkt=8&sd=362480008175&itm=362480008175&_trksid=p5713.c100284.m3505

    Another option I thought about was from a CBR1000. They started using a balance free Showa in 2012, so they have the same performance as the ZX10R shock, and a shape really similar to the 929 shock that Jamie D was selling for our VFR's. Those CBR shocks are pretty inexpensive still.

    https://www.ebay.com/i/283228694553?chn=ps

    Jose
     
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    Guys, I have tested the ZX10 shocks on the dyno and I can say this for certain - DO NOT USE IT ON THE VFR. It would be outright dangerous to ride. Replacing the spring actually makes things worse in some ways. The damping is critical to safe operation.

    Please guys, just don't do it. I'm not trying to push anyone toward our products, I just don't want to see anyone get hurt.
     
  3. DaHose

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    Hey Jamie. Damping adjusted to where the bike feels great. Is your concern something that can be fixed with a re-valve?

    Jose
     
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    Amoung the other modifications needed to make it work (namely correcting the overall travel), a revalve would definitely be needed. Once you dig in and get the interal valving correct those shocks are actually pretty decent units.
     
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    Since I already have the unit, what would it cost to have you tweak it for me?

    Jose
     
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    PM sent!
     
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    What's the Dyno/rear shock issue about?
    Don't see the logic here
     
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    It’s a shock Dyno, it tests damping performance of a shock.
    People think that because a shock has comp and rebound adjustment, you can just replace the spring and adjust the rest, you can’t.
     
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    Since we provide upgrades for all makes and models of motorcycles we have testing data on our suspension dynamometer (dyno) for the stock units. I can then compare that to the calculated ideal. This is usually done to give customers an idea of how bad their stock parts are compared to what they should be. In this case, I can compare how a stock ZX10 rear shock performs and apply that to the needs of the VFR. What I can tell you is the ZX10 shock produces a fraction of the damping you need just to get into a safe zone on the VFR, let alone be considered an upgrade. This is a safety issue IMHO.

    I know how tempting it is to think there is a magic wand solution out there. Unfortunately the reality of the world is this just isn't the case. I hope this helps!
     
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    "Insert facepalm here"

    Yeah, I was on another kind of Dyno...

    So this is a no go as is, and takes x amount of usd to get sorted right? Add spring to cost and it gets us in the ball park of one of your custom rear shock?
     
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    And here I was thinking: oh, it does not work because our rear bank headers radiate to much heat and makes the showa shit itself
     
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