Disabling linked braking/braided line conversion and a few other odd quesstions

Discussion in '5th Generation 1998-2001' started by galenernest, Mar 17, 2012.

  1. Badbilly

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    I think I'm gonna de-link my brakes on the mach 1 91. I think a hacksaw should take off that rear brake pedal in about 2-3 minutes.
     


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    Somewhere along the way I believe we lost the OP!

    I think everyone has had the opportunity to share their opinions on the linked brakes so now we need an update on the bike in question. I would really like to know how the fairings from long dong province fit and look on the bike.

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    Any reference real or implied to Scubalong was not intentional in this post!

    How about a few pics and an update OP?
     


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    Mello_dude,

    this i not to start a thread fight, but just to fill in more of where I was referencing from.

    The Op asked about stock calipers, if he dropped the stocks for the RC51's then yes you could realize good weight savings, but he would be asking about different brake calipers instead of just a de-link. Just dropping the link hoses is not worth the effort or time.

    I never said that the breaking was trasnparent, but it is a fact that all break pads against steel rotors have almost no friction until enough pressure is applied or the speed of the rotor is sufficient to cause enough material to pass the pad to generate the heat required to retard motion. eg if you have one pad rubbing on the rotor it will neither inhibit your motion nor cause enough heat build-up to have an effect on useability. that said it will make that break more responsive as that pad and rotor will have some latent heat, just not enough to actually do anything.

    I agree, mod away and post pics at the minimum, but modding a safety device or system without fully understanding what changes your making and why, or just making changes on a system you never gave a full consideration to is dangerous and not just to you as the rider. Give the system a full chance to show you its advantages. Besides shorter stopping distances, of this I have had the unfortunate chance to test, it gives more even pad life, helps to prevent walk out while braking and if your bike has the ABS system installed it reduces the false triggering of the ABS. If you dont have the ABS then it will not have a good solid reason to be there(and could have made the bike 700$ cheaper for non-abs).

    If a rider could actually tell the difference in performance and ability of the braking system consistantly they would want to improve the braking effort without adding more pressure to the lever. The less pressure you have to exert, the more fine motor control you have. Most of the riders I have spoken with that have de-linked their bikes have more than personal reasons, some where looking to trim the fat and lighter calipers were the way to go. But at that point it wasnt a de-link it was to change from one system type to another, it just happens that the new/ alternative system is not linked. One even de-linked just to test the feel and if there was a difference and what it was, the bike was returned to linked as the feel wasnt enough to justify keeping it that way.

    If a rider wants seperate brakes then please just change to the RC51 system, de-linking the stocks is possible but the possibility of not working right or jamming on is too high to risk. The system was never designed to be de-linked, so consider it carefully.

    If your beef with the system is slow speed, the I digress, it link system does not work a gas station speeds unless you hammer your brakes, but at that point it helps you get stopped. There is a nice write-up on how the system works in the FSM, every VFR800 rider should at least read it to understand what and how the system works. If your drift-racing your bike, then you should have already been looking at different calipers and levers.
     


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  4. mello dude

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    Zen the thing that drove me crazy with the system is the front fork compression with opporation of the rear brakes. Shit that was 6 years ago and I dont care no more.. btw (breaking - its broken, braking - it stops)

    But screw all this analysis, go have a pint and ----- Lets help the OP . --

    - Sorry galenernest for the thread jack that popped out - What do you need?
     


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