Ding Dong, the red light cameras are dead!!

Good point. That would keep both hands busy. Well, busier than the cagers with auto trannies.


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Some excellent points all. Action, I had to laugh at "if you think if you just follow rules you'll be all right".

Here's an article from a newspaper confirming that red light cameras INCREASE accidents: http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/10/1050.asp

 

You got a yellow, you got time to stop. If the light's illegally timed, a few minutes of video can go a long way in court to proving that. As I recall, crosswalks normally have stop lines to either side at which surprise, surprise, vehicles are supposed to stop. Right turns on red is legal in some areas, not in others and in any case have conditions like "when clear" and "full stop" attached. I repeat, too damned many idiots run the reds for stupid reasons like "I'm hungry" to "didn't feel like waiting" to less that that. Red light cams, for watever the reason they are there, cause a major drop in runners and the danger to others runners present.I watched a light go red, 15 seconds later an asshole ran it and t-boned a van, killing 3 of the 7 in it. His excuse? "I didn't see the fuckers." I'm sad that you are ok with that. :crazy:

Oh, by the way, I will thank you to speak for yourself pal, not for me.

 

It's all about generating $$$ for the cities under the falsehood of safety. $Millions!!! I would love to know where the $$$ is spent? Safety? :unsure:

The ONLY problem I have with those numbers is how do they know the TRUE # of accidents at those intersections before the cameras were installed. Those are only the accidents that are actually reported to the police. I bet a good number of accidents were kept "off the books" to prevent having to use insurance. "My fault, I'll pay to have your car fixed, let's not involve our insurance companies". It happens a lot. With the cameras installed, NO accidents will go unnoticed and the insurance companies would always be involved.


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I got to add a clarification here, I would be ok with red light cameras as long as they are reasonable. If the light has been read for 15 seconds then yeah, that warrants a ticket, buuuuuut..... how about a guy just riding along not even in a hurry and sees yellow light and can't stop in time and gets ticketed for running a light when it was red for fractions of a second?

That is my issue with them. In my original post if you look at the article referenced georga introduced a new law to extend the yellow light by an extra second. You would think the cities are going to figure that's going to provide a much safer intersection and that the red light cameras will catch the real idiots intentionally running red lights well after it's been red. Nope, they canceled the red light cameras because they wouldn't make any money for them.

Taking this on a tangent, with this kind of logic why doesn't the city might as well focus only on the profitable crimes and ignore murders, rapes, etc.. Someone's getting shot at? Who cares, there's a speeder that's easy money.

 

I think there are two debates going on here. I'm all for a discussion on the scientific validity concerning their safety effectiveness, even better if someone backs up statements with actual data. But if your contention is based upon the fact you got caught running a red light by camera and are now whining about it then it’s your bad, not the system Our society as whole needs a helluva a lot more personal responsibility in my opinion.

 

Joey...

The POPO:mod::mod: could not catch up with you that why they set up camera so they can issue you a ticket brader........:biggrin::rofl::rofl:

 

You can find studies pointing either way. This one seems to be one of the more valid (LINK). Here in ABQ some of the intersections with the Cam's have gone down, some up. The problem is overall, the cameras have made no difference city wide. As you could tell I'm not a fan of the cameras and I like the auto speed detection even less.

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