Cleaners / polish

Yep, that back in the day stuff was the thing to do if ya didn't know any better. One of those back in the day deals were wash racks behind bike shops. A small bottle of premixed "Gunk" was attached to a wand and spring loaded valve coupled to an air compressor. The Gunk was misted on, allowed to work and then hosed off. Gunk is a line of products. The hand cleaner is just one. The original Gunk came as a concentrate and was mixed with diesel. Possibly still available in that form from NAPA. What it is probably is a tight a secret as the formula for Coca-Cola.

The gasoline actually would have been the better solvent to remove tar from the pan and headers. The evaporation rate of Acetone is near that of ether. Good stuff if used properly . There is a kind of ATTGATT out there for aromatic solvents.

Never used much of the other Gunk products. Used up a shitload of pumice containing Lava hand soap.

The genesis for the "Orange" stuff is a so called "safe" paint stripper containing sodium hydroxide (lye).

I used to ride withoot a helmet back in the day too. At the time since I'm still alive it must have been OK...

 

Thanks-don't have any "swirls", just dull. Also don't think the plastics were clearcoated but I'm not sure-they were mighty shiny when new but have dulled to the point of looking like matte finish paint, especially the front fairing below the windscreen.

 

These products that sound like they are made mostly of unobtanium mined on the planet Zorg are OTC in somebody's store. As in commercial grade janitorial supplies, the quantities for minimum purchase may be somewhat large for detailing a motorcycle.

Pics would be nice of a few cars and other various rigs. Even better would be pics of actual applications of this mystery juice on bikes.

Many dealerships cars and bikes included have employees who detail the used inventory for resale. If a given dealership in the automotive area has a body and paint shop there is a good chance they do detailing at about the same price as an independent shop.

It may well be that this wonderproduct is not repackaged. In fact it may be made by two of the big boys in the biz who do sell wholesale specifically to repackagers for that purpose.

 

The detail dude is determined to schlepp his goods at all costs. To get your bike all shiney again, it needs to be repainted. I would suggest including the tank. It too has faded.

The key word here concerning faded paint especially reds is "fugitive".

 

Thanks BadBilly

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Nope
Red fading is usually oxidization

Listen gents, we live in the era of Google, don't take my word for it.
If you Google the stuff I recommended, you can decide for yourself from "reports", before/after of the pros.

Autopia (where the pros discuss new stuff and compare to old stuff) and YouTube are the best resources.

Cheers



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If you buff red paint that has oxidized, your buffing pad/towel will become red.
It's like scrubbing off dead skin cells on your skin, with single stage paint (No clear coat)
If you get the panel wet and it looks good, then turns to dull when dry, you have oxidized paint that can be revived without paint job.
Not telling you to do this, but if you put glaze or armor all on a small patch, I bet you it looks great until the next rain/wash.



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If you have oxidized paint and do not follow ocd washing techniques, I can 100 % guarantee you have swirls on your 15 year old paint. Swirls are the Starbursts and "halos" when viewed in direct sunlight.

Black paint demonstrates what swirls the easiest: https://www.google.ca/search?q=swir..._tNnUAhWGOiYKHQfFBrUQ_AUICSgB&biw=375&bih=591

Ps, dealership detailers are the lowest paid employees working there. If you think they provide quality vs speed and knocking them out at an alarming rate, at a Honda dealership no less, you and I are on a different planet.

Don't listen to me, YouTube "new car prep" ans listen to those more knowledgeable than I.

If you were buying an exotic car, I would have more faith in their skills, Honda dealer with high volume economy cars? Rare, very rare.

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started using the Honda spray polish many years ago as an " after the ride wipe down" to remove bugsplat & minor road grime from plastics.bikes get a good paste wax once or twice a year.only use clean microfiber towels . my road bikes shine like new without scratches or swril marks ,only battle scars are from riding in a group stone dings.

 

The real tecchie term for fading is "photodegreredation." Google is a search engine. The Library of Congress has a shitload of info on photodegredation. This brings up the question of which came first the LOC or the Google. Paint users of all kinds have known aboot fugitive colors when Google was just a bigass number.

How bout a new challenge to sort this one oot? The OP pulls the faded paint parts off his bike. You or one of your reporters does all that magic on his faded paint supplying before and after pics, and it might get you a few pesos in sales. The paint is going flat and is more than likely fading to a girly tone of pink.

This site has several contributors who engineer, manufacture or provide useful services. Coming on like some messiah who is gonna save everyone's bacon ain't a real great idea.

 

Scuff sanding old paint and shooting on a clear coat will make it all shiny too. A standard method in many types of painting is to press a low power loupe creating a "lens" effect. Short of having a loupe a drinking glass with a clear bottom will do. As an example, try either on a print or even a wall surface that is flat or low gloss.

 

High volume detailing at dealerships suggests that the dealerships are using product purchased in bulk from the big boys or they have mysteriously discovered product lines like those you are trying to sell here under the guise of a not too well planned infomercial.

We should also differentiate between detailers as full time employees or as needed service reps and lot boys who with jugs of magic juice become detailers of the first order.

I hope you are not under the impression that dealerships of any kind are not in the business of moving product whether they be Yugo dealers or selling rich guy toys to the high rollers.

Do you have anything that pertains specifically to motorcycles or are you just fishing?

 

Badbilly, I'm not going to continue this lovely banter with you, we're clearly running off into tangents.
But for the others that are open to picking up new things, did the work for you here:


Just sit back and relax, and watch this expert break it down to you, verbally, and visually. I'm not making any money off these products, feel free to PM me to confirm what I do for a living. Honda's polish is a chemical polish, and it's capabilities in correction are severely limited.



And another of an extreme example, restoring plastic (I think?) panel without repainting. In detailing, you always start with the least invasive/damaging method. Loosely following:
- did claybar fix it? NO
- does chemical polish fix it? NO
- does machine polishing/compound fix it? NO
- wetsand, then machine compound, then machine polish. Fixed?
- Repaint
Don't be afraid of the unknown, open your mind and maybe you will pick up something new.





Hope I just rocked your world, figuratively, and literally.

 

If ya plug in "the chemical guys.com" after watching the dude detail aboot 60 sq/in of a Harley fender. I looks like one can get all kinds of Chemical goodies, kits, tools, individual squirt bottles of magic juice and even buy a franchise.

Just when I was thinking all this stuff was hard to get. Just show em the money. I would have a question aboot their claybars but since you have opted to bail on me. I shall go to the guru on the mountaintop for further enlightment. OM!

Don't miss any of the valuable information contained here on Harley's . Tons of inside stuff.