Bush still "dodging" the issue???

it isn't that I have no beliefs, just none of a religious sort
I believe in Science for example

the idea that to not beleive in some sort of religion is empty and senseless, sort of goes to my belief that all too often people use religion as a crutch, which is one of the faults I have with most organized religion

there is something to be said for the J/C ethic, although I think to attribute it all to just the J?C is a bit much, as much of it goes along with other religions, there are lots of people who live by most of the 10 commandmants (not the idolotry one or keeping the sabath one) but don't need to do it for fear of a punishment from above, or do it out of fear from above, but are not part of the J or C religions, but a different religion

Your journey is in reverse to mine, when I was growing up I was a member of the local church, and did the whole thing, but early on in catechism class (sort of like Sunday school, but on Sat. mornings) I started asking questions, questions the parent helpers, then the nuns, then the priests didn't really like. When I got to HS and college I actively sought out attending different services with friends. The more I saw, the more I drifted towards being agnostic, then years later turned the corner to Atheism, in which I become more and more devout every day. The more I learn about life and the more cultures I explore, the more I see how so many of the religions are really the same, even though much blood has been shed over the differences; many lives torn asunder. I remember exploring the pyramids of Mexico when I was younger and learning about the many gods in Mayan and Aztec culture, and how many in my tour group snickered at the idea of there being a god of the sun, and a god of the moon, etc. when to me it didn't seem any more beleivable or unbeleivable than the idea of one god, who found a married virgin to impregnate. It is the same sort of idea, or ideas, and reeks of a time when man searched for explanations for things he couldn't and we can't even now always explain.

I just think religion served its purpose at one time, but now has far outgrown its usefulness and often now serves to cause more problems than it solves.

 

I was an anthropology major oh so many years ago, and an avid believer in evolution. But as the years go by and more and more discoveries are brought to light, it is becoming clearer every day that the fossil record just does not support the theory of evolution. This was a big disappointment to me because the theory of evolution provided a neat and tidy explanation for how life in its many and varied forms came about. Now it seems that there was/is something more at play here. Perhaps even creationism.

 

Spike:

Yes you did, yes you did and yes you did...

Since people think I look like this guy, and this is a great song. Here's my response to your two responses. Enjoy.

YouTube - Liam Lynch: United States of Whatever

BZ

 

Hey Bubba. This dude has to be Wierd Al Yankovich's spawn

 

Darn can't leave Spike to bat on his own. :bounce:

Not sure why you'd think Fossels don't support evolution they certainly don't support the bible. Like everything else as new information comes to light evolution needs to evolve and adjust, sure even ol Darwin would admit he didn't work out everthing rather to begin thinking about the world through scientific observation a little differently not the end.

Religion itself evolves all the time, at one time priests tortured people for not believing the world flat or the sun and stars revolved around the earth.

Look to Martin Luther and his reformation who thought everyone should have the right to read and understand the bible in their own language putting his own life in jeopardy for not leaving its interpretation to the select few for reasons of power and control but in so doing giving people the ability to interpret what they read allowing divergence.

As time and science widens the picture or fills in the gaps why not allow Evolution to evolve ?

 

I'm personally disappointed with our new president already. I didn't see one story on any of the news networks yesterday of him healing the lame, turning water into wine, or feeding the million or so people that came to watch with loaves and fishes. No the story I did hear was that that the post-innauguration luncheon cost US taxpayers 6.5 million dollars! WTF! That's a great thing to piss away money on right now, but I guess when they tossed the first $350 billion out there and really can't say what happened to it or how it helped and they want to do the same with the next 350 billion what's $6.5mil for lunch for a million or so fanatics? God damn this country is broken.

 

WTF? I never mentioned the Bible, you did. The Bible has nothing to do with the statement I made. Do you also listen as well as you read?

 

Appologies then, looks I read more into your statement than you wrote but you did mention the word Creatism and my admittedly basic understanding of its use is usually in tandum with a less literal interpretation of the bible that allows for a world more than 6,500 years old?
:unsure:

 

I thought this summed up Bush's 8yrs in about 8 min

link>>>>> YouTube - 8 Years Of Bush in 8 Minutes! ~Olbermann <<<<<