Burned up clutch

a few more images of when I had it apart. the outermost friction plate simply melted, and sheared the outer tabs away from the circumference. the rest of the broken plate simply stacked up neatly and friction welded themselves to the steel plate. the outer pressure plate, looked brand new, and was reused, without damage there was no need to replace it. I replaced one of the steel plates, the rest were still flat, although somwhat overheated and blue in color, but light sanding removed most of the discoloration, and proved their flatness, and being cheap, i reused them.

 

thats funny cause your oil looks just like the oil that came out of my boat motor..when it blew and got mixed with water..... anyway. you did that to a brand new bike...did you run it thru rthe manufacturers suggested break in period? or did you just beat the shit out of it right from the crate? must be nice to have disposable income to be able to break stuff like that.....

I live next to a university full of butt heads that do the same thing only they call it stuntin' and its cool to tear up the brand new bikes that daddy payed for..... I f you work for HPD what was the point of your question here? just wondering? you want comments on how you burned up the clutch well its burned up. people responded saying that they have never burnrd one up .. I have owned three hondas two vfrs' and one VF never burned a clutch in any of them or in any of the other four five bikes I have owned.....whats your point?

 

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I am confused as to your original posting as well. You work for Honda and have worked on bikes for 30+ years, and you are posting a thread up here asking others about their comments? I just do not understand. Maybe you are braggin' or you think that you are all high and mighty because you "supposedly" work for Honda and you are trying to tease us (the little people) saying how much you know. Oh, and I happen to be Valentino Rossi's personal mechanic, and advisor. The reason he wins all of those races is 50% me. Comments?

BTW, if you work for HPD, please tell everyone in your dept that the Honda needs to pull their head out of their pronto. I mean, the DN-01, the FURY, a VERY heavy VFR1200 with a headlight that only a mother could love??? I think you guys might need some counseling. Dr Phil is waiting!

 

maybe I'm just another creep that trolls forums and full of it? So far, theres plenty of "high and mighty" here already, this site doesn't need any more. I am as little as anyone else. I seriously doubt you are vales tech.

if you took the time to read into either of the 2 links I posted, you know HPD doesnt have anything to do with the DN01 or the FURY, or how much weight the new VFR carries.

my original post asked for comments about my burned up clutch, when I posted that I abused it myself, only to recieve a barrage of "it looks like your oil has water in it", with about a half dozen "me too" posts.
cooked oil, is cooked oil and looks black. the camera gave the color of oil to mimic some sort of vision, others might have seen in other failures. oil with water in it looks like chocolate milk, quite unlike the picture posted above.

I didnt think I was high and mighty, bragging about where I work. I could have said we have been busy with finishing a multitude of engine assemblies, for a couple of big races coming up, one in Indiana, and the other in France, but I didnt.

I thought there might be some serious discussion about the removal of the anti-judder spring, and aftermarket clutches others have used, and start some respectful conversation about how the VFR800 has a clutch thats modified for touring use, and cautions about how much abuse it would take before it says good-bye, but it doesnt look like thats gonna happen.

I'm sure if you are truly serious about what Honda should make, write to them, and tell them what you want, then buy what you think is what you want.

Without bragging, email me at jbroussard@hra.com and see who you talk to? (thats the racing dept at honda, addy)



why would anyone think, that the stock VFR 800 clutch couldnt be so easily damaged, without such nonsense as having to have water in the oil, or some other catastrophe unknown, that I would be hiding?
and when I replied to say, I have some experience with motorcycles, and so you and others dont think I'm just some troll, or stupid punk kid who thinks he knows it all, (i certainly dont) I would have "and I'm Rossi's mechanice, blah" response.

but, I guess since I dont frequent this site much, you dont know me, and I havnt spent time finding some obnoxious avatar to represent who I am, because i dont have a life, instead I'm just some old guy, who was embarrased himself by burning up the clutch on a new bike, and thought I'd share my misfortune and stupidity, for a laugh or 2.

I'm just an old motorcycle mechanic, who found a home using my engine building skills, and am lucky enough to like my work, and has a clean place to do it in.

I can see some of you have made your point, you all can put your hats back on. I wasn't trying to make a point, only posting that I burned up my clutch, is that too hard to understand?
It cost me
$59 for the parts, to repair my clutch. I just bought 2 tires for about $220, dunlop roadsmarts. I dont have disposable income, i just love motorcycles.
and since this could be my last post on this site, heres a couple of pics of my stock tires after 3,500 miles.



jsut so you dont think I'm one of those guys who ride the freeways, or balds out the tire from riding straight, heres the rear ....

 

Crusty, it looks like I'll be up your way sunday, taking the little lady to the zoo, and probably stop by cold springs tavern, do the tourists thing. Maybe we can meet up one weekend, on bikes and get to know each other more?

 

:yield::yield:

 

cool... the zoo is small but a nice one... cold springs Tavern..definatley tourist trap so to speak of... but they do make a helluva BBq up there..

sure thing... we can meet up....

 

Not mentioned yet. The disk could have been defective from the start. Bad adhesive or bonding of the material on to the plate. Seeing you work for Honda I'm sure your aware the VFR was not designed to be an all out racer. So the clutch material may not have been spec'd for racing. You mentioned your Suzuki wouldn't do that. What model? GSXR or high hp sportbike? Designed for abuse? I'm assuming here that the CBR1000 or what ever high hp sport bike from Honda may have a different clutch material used.? Don't really know because I haven't had interest in checking.

But anybody that's going to be racing any machine should be smart enough to know most stock parts, unless stock is some type of racing machine, will not hold up under those conditions for long. I doubt the VFR was spec'd for anything like that. Your in racing so you should know that and take that in to consideration. . Seeing you work on/with race bikes. Do they use stock clutches from Honda? If so are they rated for roadracing? Like others have said they race on them without problems. Could be your style of clutch use? Well back to my first point- it could have been a defective part from the beginning. Did you ever think of that? Or who knows what the po did to it and won't tell or didn't even know what they did to it could hurt it.

 

what would be funnier is if the VFR used the same clutch discs as the CBR1000 as they have a clutch recall for doing this. Buddy just had his CBR clutch break apart and had the recall done.

 

I would ask these people since they've supercharged the VFR800, I would think a clutch issue would show up pretty quick boosting hp by 50% +.

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