Thanks for that Thomas. As I am in Australia cold weather is not much of an issue for me. I have to say I have no real problem with the Dunlops in dry weather. I dont take my VFR down gravell roads its just than on some occasions I find myself a surface that has a covering of light sand covering tar (for example). I find that I lose all grip of this type of suface with the Dunlops. My last bike had Pirelli's and as with my previous other bikes I did not have the amount of side sliding that I have had with the Dunlops. I really appreciate all the advice that I have received here.