Are There Any REAL VTEC Problems or Issues?

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  1. mello dude

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    Look here then decide - the 6th feels way heavier to me...

    http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_weights_measurements/index4.html

    MD
     


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    Wow, you are right about the weight. I just checked the original paperwork from my '99 5th Gen and my '07 6th Gen (I bought both new) and the documented weight is indeed 458 vs 505 (non-ABS).

    Jumping from the 5th to the 6th I can honestly say that I never even noticed it. If anything, I thought the handling on the 6th was sharper which probably masks the extra weight. Where did all this extra weight come from?
     


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    Don't think I trust their weighing process, they list 50lbs difference dry but only 35lbs difference wet, why would the Gen 5 take so much more liquids in comparison when the Gen 6 has a litre bigger gas tank ?

    The difference in feel is probably down to Gen 5's lower bars and maybe the Gen5's forks have been dropped through the clamps a little.
     


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    There is an obvious typo on the power and torque numbers on the 2006 - bassssackwards.

    Weighing process? I think put it on the scale and read the number would pretty much some it up. Maybe the difference is the gas tank capacity.

    MD
     


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    I was trying to be humorous... hence the extra smilies. Did not mean to offend. :peace:
     


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    OK, things are starting to make sense now. Here is a link to Honda's website for the specs on the '07.

    http://powersports.honda.com/motorc...me=Interceptor&ModelYear=2007&ModelId=VFR8007

    It lists DRY weight at 470 lbs. The 5th Gen's is 458, so it looks like that mello dude is right. It's only about a 12 lb difference.

    Coming from a 5th Gen to a 6th Gen, I tought it was odd that I didn't notice what was thought to be a 50 lb difference! 12 lbs I can understand.
     


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    The weight of a 6th Gen may be only slightly more than the '98-'01 Fifth Gen, but the mags say that the 6th feels overweight/underpowered compared to, say, an ST3 or an FJR1300(!). Still, I would be really REALLY happy with a 6th Gen in my garage. A good bike is so much more than a weight/horsepower ratio.
     


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    The manufactures dry weights need to be taken with a grain of salt, there's not one that the listed dry weight actually matches the real bike when you roll in on to a scale. Doesnt matter if its a 600 or a Goldwing they are optimistic to the low side. I think they figure out what the computer model says minus all fluids and publish that before they build the first prototype.
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    none taken --- I'm such a geek.....:biggrin:

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    The magazine editors just don't get it! Most of them have a GSX-R stuck up their butt. There is so much more to the VFR than power/weight ratio. They're not the fastest, not the lightest, not the cheapest, just the BEST!:first:
     


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    Maybe it is a generational thing where my 6th generation humor is lost on the "old" timer 5th generation brothers.... :wink:
     


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    I read this too when I started looking at buying the bike last year. Here is a link to a test on the '02 where they say power is up over the 5th Gen but it is negated by the taller gearing. Because of that, I changed my gearing (+2 rear) before I took it out for its first ride. Here is part of the text that talks to it:

    "The highway is where we found the Interceptor's taller gearing tended to offset any power gains attained by the VTEC."

    For the full article, here is the link:

    http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/escape/motorcycles/146_0204_revamped_honda_interceptor/

    It also talks about VTEC engagement while in corners. It is a good read.
     


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    Yall keep refering to the 02 6th gen for your comparison to the 5th gen or the FJR (Which IMHO is a light tourer not a sport tourer. I've owned one just before my VFR) and things have changed a bit since the 02. My completely stock 03 has a silky smooth VTECH transition. I don't even think about it when cornering. Most of the criticisim of the 6th gems (as I have read before) comes from people that do not own or have not even ridden a 6th gen. Remember, many first year models have minor glitches that are worked out in within the next year or two.
     


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    Isn't that funny? Once I cut through all the crap and finally bought one, I realized that the bike is a very refined, sweet ride. I have no complaints with mine.
     


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    I admit the 6th gen is a very fine ride... I guess I'm one of the lucky fools that what able to get over 1400 mile on each 5th and a 6th back to back - on a 6th one day and on the 5th the next. (over 2900 total) I decided the 5th was the one for me. Didnt like the 6th, although again yes its a fine ride.

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    What I think it boils down to is a lot of the 4th and 5th generation riders love the sport aspect of their bikes, seems like everybody I talk to who has a 4th or 5th generation bike really likes taking it to the limit when it comes to going to the twistys...
     


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    Oh yeah.... knee on the deck - on the gas!! let 'er rip!!

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    If you really want to know your bikes weight drive it over the scales, mine came in at 511lbs. with bit more than 1/2 a tank..
     


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    The Gen 6 is just as sporty as will shift along as well as any previous Gen bar an RVF750. On regular VFR run's with 20 odd VFR's ( the combined sound of which is awesome :cool: ) the consistantly quickest 3 of the top 5 riders through the long distance twisties are usually on Gen 6's, unfortunately on Gen 6 or 5 I'm not counted as one of them though.
     
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