Anyone else talking RACING?! <--- of the motorcycle type

It was really interesting how quickly Lorenzo got away from Stoner and Pedrosa at the end. Yeah, Nicky only backed up one spot from where he qualified; but he was still four places ahead of Rossi on the same bike. Good stuff! Moto2 was a good race as well. Looking like another good season, and even the CRT's looked good.

 

Marquez and Iannone on mopeds would still be a good show.

 

That was interesting and wasn't Lorenzo happy about his win on the podium. Hopefully Stoners arm pump problem was unique to Qatar, was also interesting to see how well last years Moto 2 Champ Stefan Bradl rode his first MotoGP race.

MotoGP Results:
http://www.mcnews.com.au/MotorcycleRacing2012/MotoGP/rND1/Day4.htm

 

Sooo much handwringing over Vale. While Nicky just keeps on hammering out the laps. Sissies.

 

Speaking of Valentino, have a read of Motomatters article " Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea: Valentino Rossi's Options for the Future " .

“ Understanding that Stoner could be so competitive on the Ducati must have been a blow to Rossi's confidence and his self image. After their legendary and heart-stopping duel at Laguna Seca, Rossi had felt he had the measure of the Australian, beating Stoner more often than not and taking the 2008 and 2009 titles. Once he realized that throughout that period, Stoner had been bringing a knife to a gunfight and still regularly beating him.... ”

Full Linky:
Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea: Valentino Rossi's Options for the Future | MotoMatters.com

 

Yeah, great article. I like some of the posters though; I would love to see Rossi at either Suzuki or Aprilia in 2013, if either could put a competitive bike under him; that would be true shenanigans and way too much fun to watch!

 

I wonder if this "watching with friends" thing includes roundy round racing from the Deep South of the USA?. Whoop and holler!! It's the prognostications that are the BS part. I see stuff like "on the same bike" like there might be no adjustments on any of them..LOL.. and the trivia aspect. " So and so has a zit on his nose so this may affect his lap times.." If anyone has the idea that what ya see is what you're gonna get when it comes to racing at that level should realize that these teams are run with precision and include professional PR and flack artists as well as the other highly skilled and talented team members. Do these flack artists tell the truth to the press especially the "net" press? Is there psyching in racing? The list goes on.

Great fun in benchracing but re-postiing of most anything prior to any given race as some form of "inside info" is BS..

Bottom line.. Shit happens and the checkered (chequered) flags tell the tale.

 

Isn't that the point ? each riders team gets to set up their bike to suit his full potential for the track and for all intents Rossi has had way more clout within the Team than Casey ever had on how the Duc should be set up.

As for the author it is by David Emmett who was Yamahas Media spokesman during Rossi's time so may actually have some idea on the topic. If you have true insider gossip on MotoGP by all means share it, in the meantime even if it's not treated too seriously plebs like myself will just have to make do between races with hints found on credible Motorcycle sites and views posted here.

 

SPIES and EDWARDS all the way.

 

Indeed it is the point. Some seem to think there is perhaps only one bike for both fast guys? The quote remains.. "same bike" for these fast guys and Ducati.. No way!

I'm sure that if the situation came about in a scenario as we say here, "two guys in a room" , Mr. Emmet would tell you flat out that what he said was not always accurate. I am surprised you are not acknowledging the hype/psyche factor in racing of almost any type. Kind of like Poker..IMO. I think some are equating racing with chess if we can use the analogy. Both are games but very different in application.

Do I have any inside stuff? Nope, just what I read in the newspapers.. That and because everything I read on the net is for some, the gospel..


A couple of quotes by a famous guy ( Not Hugh Laurie

There are three kinds of lies. Lies, damned lies and statistics.

“Everybody lies...every day, every hour, awake, asleep, in his dreams, in his joy, in his mourning. If he keeps his tongue still his hands, his feet, his eyes, his attitude will convey deception.”
― Mark Twain

 

The Honda is a good bike, and everybody on them is fast enough to win on any given Sunday
The Yamaha is a good bike, and everybody on them is fast enough to win on any given Sunday
The Ducati is STILL a 'second tier' bike, and Nicky is faster than Vale in every session

Conclusions anyone?

At Honda Vale had probably the best bike, and made it better with his interaction with the team, and he won. At Yamaha he had the ears of every engineer and the support of the factory who was desperate to get back to the top, and he won. At Ducati the team rules development. While Vale has an input, he is only one of them and perhaps not the most influential. Vale has not won a race on either the GP11 or the GP12, and appears to be slipping further back while Nicky is holding his own and perhaps moving forward slowly. My conclusion is that Vale's skill set and style are simply not adaptable to the way the Ducati works, while Nicky is somewhat more adaptable. That Casey was able to win on a Ducati I think just highlights the adaptability of his skills and style. All three of these guys are World Champions, Vale and Casey on more than one brand of machine.

Ducati has always 'gone their own way', and at this point in the evolution of MotoGP technology they are out of step with the realities of the sport.

 

I saw this article a few days ago. Rather wordy way of saying that in his (Emmet's) opinion either Ducati needs to rethink its way of doing business, or Vale's skill set isnt up to the task. Bit of schadenfreude perhaps? But he then tries to redeem himself by pointing out that Vale is a monster brand that brings in huge bucks, so even Dorna wont let him fail. Not a bad read.


"One of the secrets of being happy is realizing you will quite often be told things you already know"....Socky the Monkey.

 

Just finished watching Motogp2 on Motogp-Holy cow batman, that was one hell of a race. What a great series

 

Quite possibly THE most accurate prediction i have seen yet!!

 

So, WTF happened to the Moto-GP in China? A guy I sort of know attended and from what he wrote it was, shall we say, intense..

Hopefully Moto-GP will not befall what went on in the last Formula race for cars in the Middle East..

 

Some f*cking great racing this last weekend from AMA-The Big Kahuna-Lets just fall off my bike doing a buck 60 and get back on, and from the back of the pack win-Now thats a racer-soon to be Champion

 

I agree, amazing race. I also agree, that's a racer. I'm not sold on the soon to be champion part...

 

May have jumped the shark on that champion statemnt. How bout the WSB races, pretty crazy in the rain and the race #2 at the very beginning showing all the public bikes, what would be sitting in the very front row 6TH GEN VFR, oh and the race was great---Johnny Rae, way to go on that Honda

 

Blake Young also won Daytona. He and Josh are running a close 1-2 for the AMA superbike championship (early yet) - So champion - yes that's a possibility.... Watched the Saturday superbike race on TV, saw the Sunday Race w/ my son in person - sat in the 10a/10b spectator area. Blake Young turned in another strong performance on his back-up bike - starting with cold tires, and Josh won. Flipping the order of finish from Saturday. Both guys are really exciting to watch.

My son got Blake's autograph and Blake posed for a pic with him, he was genial, and appeared gracious and appreciative of his fans... That's the best I could ask of from any pro racer, when combined with being a skilled, highly competitive racer.



.... And then some...

 

SOLOII, Lets see the pictures of your Boy and Blake !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!