5th generation vs. 6th generation

okay you hooked me, because i have a 6th gen and i cant seem to find my catalytic converter or small exhaust manifold. and this vtec you speak of, I've yet to feel it. i have heard it, because my bike goes from sounding like a harley a low revs, to a chevy small block in the middle, and for some reason at 6 and a half grand sounds like a nascar at full tilt, but i haven't noticed any annoying feeling. at 500 lbs fully fueled whose is lighter?
let the war begin...

 

What have you been riding mopeds? Why should someone have to spend extra money to keep their bike from jerking and surging when it hits a certain RPM range? The VFR is an overall well built, solid bike but the fact of the matter is that Honda over-complicated the engine with the VTEC and many people find the transition quite noticeable and abrupt unless you stay on the throttle hard. I'm not sure about you but I don't find it especially pleasant when the VTEC engages when I'm coming out of a sharp curve in the mountains. Let's also not forget that the VTEC engines are harder to work on and most owners will have to spend significantly more money to have a valve checks done on a VTEC. As far as the changes to cams, I've known several 6th Gen owners who have already had to had their cam chain tensioners replaced on their bikes with less than 10k miles on them. Sorry if you disagree with me but I have two VFR's in my garage right now and my opinion is based on my experience riding both VTEC and non-VTEC versions on a regular basis. Maybe I wouldn't notice much if I rode my VFR all day long on golf cart paths or if I moved to Florida and rode in a straight line all day long. Believe me, my 6th Gen has been for sale for the past year and I wouldn't mind selling it but I'm not going to give it away just because I don't like the VTEC.

Regards,
Rollin

 

Now that is a true classic!!!

 

Candy, you might want to contact NorcalBoy about his exhaust mods. Here's his statement 02-17-09 on here . . .

"The Motad, with LV carbon cans and a Power Commander did provide a very nice, dyno verified, hp increase over the stock cat and can system on my '06. I am very happy with the system. I would recommend it to any person looking to eliminate the cat from their exhaust and get a nice hp increase also. The weight savings alone, was worth the cost of the system. I would be happy to debate the effectiveness of this sytem with anyone who actually has one or has any hard data that proves otherwise."

Lock-N-Load ~

 

I just bought a new RWB...I don't mind VTEC, but I wish to hell I had the gear-driven cams...I have ridden both, (and a 94) and have loved them ALL! I would have bought a 98 in a second if I could have found a nice clean one, but I couldn't.

It's easier to sort suspension than it is stupid emissions, and engine stuff...

I see no reason for you to upgrade, but LOVE my 07.

Confused yet?

If you're feeling the need for something new, I'd spend the money on a new exhaust for the 5thgen, or maybe a new seat, fork springs, windshield....etc...

 

Please don't contact me. These threads are like 10 5g rats fucking in a wool sock, it's all fun and games until some 6g smartass wanders by and turns the light on, then it becomes apparent to the 10 rats that there isn't a single female in the sock. I would prefer to bypass the light switch and just keep on walking.

 

This thread is annoying! We are nit picking two absolutely top notch motorcycles. I own a '07 RWB and would love to have a chance to twist the throttle on a Fifth Gen. (Any offers for a test ride?) I think the gear driven cams are something I would not want to give up. Would I sell my 6g? Hell no! Would I love to have a 5G also. Hell yes! With the 6G and an RC51 in the garage there is no more room!

You guys bashing the V-Tech, did you ever take the time to learn how to use it? Doesn't sound like it! Do a little more work with your left hand and your left foot! Cruising, stay in a higher gear and stay out of V-Tech and save fuel. Want to do a slow steady pass? Roll it on. Want to pass fast? Drop down a gear or two right into V-Tech and pass like a rocket.

If your carving twisties and V-Tech comes on during corner exit, guess what, your in the wrong gear! Agressive riding for full control requires High RPM. Enter that corner one gear lower. 6000 rpm (No V-Tech) becomes 7000 rpm (V-Tech) for better engine braking and more power on corner exit. Keep the kettle on the boil fellas.

So there you have it. Below V-tech = Tourer. Above V-Tech = Sport. Wow! Two bikes in one. Maybe they should call it a Sports /Touring bike! Perfect!

Maggot

 

Before giving your expert advice on the VTEC why don't you learn how to correctly spell it first. I am comfortable with the way I have been riding for 20 years and never had to deal with this problem on any other bike. I am simply trying to point out to those who have no experience with the VTEC that it takes some getting used to. Like I've said many times before, it may be annoying but it's manageable. At first I thought it was a cool little novelty but after 2 years I feel that the disadvantages outweigh the advantages.

Regards,
Rollin

 

hey bob you saw my sig right?

 

Welcome, I love all VFRs, and while I really do like the White 93 VFR my preference is the 5th generation VFR. The 5th GEN VFR is a tough bike and can go 100k miles. It is also an affordable bike with a low insurance category rate. Presently, I am not interested in the VTEC or the new 1200cc VFR - at least not yet lmao. Lot of mixed opinions on the VTEC. I would suggest keeping your 98 VFR and spend you money on mods and enjoy the bike. Be safe and have a good time.

 

That is absolutely not what you are trying to do. I was going to attack your last two posts with rigor and venom. Then, after re-reading your horse shit comments about chain tensioners, mopeds, golf cart paths, only good in the straights, spell checks, and all of the other oddities, I realized that you must be special, or maybe challenged in some way. After reflecting on that for a moment, I have decided that it would be cruel to engage you any further accept to say that where I live, we have real mountains, with real corners, and the 6 gen does just fine. Don't get your panties in a bunch, I know Georgia has big boy hills too. I have 13,000 miles on my bike and the tensioners couldn't be better. I am unable to get my bike onto a golf course as they are covered in snow, but when they thaw I will find one that is in a straight line from my house and report my experience back to you.

Could it be that the 6 gen just has too much HP on corner exit compared to your 4 gen, and could it be that you are simply uncomfortable with that.

You have my sincerest apologies if my love for the 6 gen, or if any of my comments have in any way, made your eyes rain.

 

I am guilty of having slandered the 6th gen on occasion, and for that, I apologize, especially to the 6th gen owners. It is wrong of me to insult a bike many of you love. We should remember what a divisive topic this is and that we're all VFR owners, regardless of the generation.

Let's all join together and focus our ridicule on Harleys.

 

These threads stretch the "One bike, one world" to the limit. Can we stop? Cos the thread creator has already made up his mind about 10 odd posts back.

 

Anyways...

If market value is really a concern consider your '98 is basically fully depreciated. It isn't going to go down all that much more over the next 5 or 6 years, regardless of the number of miles you rack up. A new 6th gen, even at the reduced price, is going to lose 40-50% of it's value in 5-6 years, which is true of almost any new vehicle.

 

i cant wait until the 7gens come out...

 

very good point vfrcapn. i have decided to keep the 98. thinking im just going to add to it im torn between the vtr 1000 and a 03 rc 51. but thanks to all for your constructive advice. but i have to say, i cant understand why you would want to come on a website, a very good one at that and try to ruin it for others with childish argueing??? really turned me off to this website being new. thanks again to all the helpful replies.

 

I really like my 5th Gen '98. I haven't ridden a VTEC, but I'm not inclined to get one anytime soon based on what I've read about them (an RWB would be very tempting, though). But I'd rather have a VTEC VFR than no VFR at all.

Question: Did Honda drop the VTEC for the VFR1200 because so many didn't like it, or what was the reason?

 

somehow I have missed this entire thread up until now... I'm gonna pretend I wasn't here :bolt:

 

While agreeing with you and buying my current Gen 5 2nd hand in '05 there is the question of confidence in your machine and a certain leap of faith in its previous owner/s and history.

Just went through the last month looking at motorcycles with a return to biking friend in the end he decided to buy brand new because A) he had the money but more importantly b) he doesn't want to have any 2nd doubts about its mechanical integrity while coming to grips with riding again.

Not being stupid he was well aware it'll depreciate 50% in 3 years but when weighing up about the unknown of a motorcycles history and the cost of something major going wrong Vs having new Warranty and the intent to keep it for at least 5 years he decided on the comfort option accepting the depriciation hit.