Here's the deal and like a lot of car/ truck deals, there's a huge difference in the out come even with $5k into it, there's still $12K left, so they're probably looking at wholesaling the VFR or maybe one of the gents there like it enough to make a deal afterwards. I've seen it go that way. I went looking at a new truck a couple months ago, whew be still my heart, $60K for a loaded Silverado, so of coarse they'll give me $14K for my 200,000 mile 06. while street book is $6-8K So like that here with the Tuono, it makes sense. It's a 17K bike, so yea there's room on paper to squeeze a deal. But I just found an 016 that's $11.9. After all that. I took the Viffer out again today just for the sake of its nice out, it's been a few days since I've rode around. Man I like my Viffer, that sound and all, SMH what I'm I thinking.