5th Gen Best Mod$: "Actually Readily Obtainable and Available"

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    I pity you if there is a cop hidden anywhere near you. And, as much as some of what you have posted, I pray for your safety. I'm not left with the greatest confidence in your riding ability and your constantly pushing it WFO.

    If you live in California, anything over 100 mph is jail time, bike impound and about $2000 in fines.
     


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    The situation here is very very remote rural, but you are absolutely right, one can never "ever" be too careful, but since I grew up on motorcycles over many many years one develops a style where it's minimal risk
     


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    TThe situation here is very very remote rural, but you are absolutely right, one can never "ever" be too careful, but since I grew up on motorcycles over many many years one develops a style where it's minimal risk, but again you just can't be too careful, so that means straight open line of sight, no vehicles whatsoever but even still there's always Aircraft

    Motorcyclist booked for 205mph on Honda RC51
    http://newatlas.com/go/3314/
     


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    All efforts to "de-legitimize" this thread are both welcomed and encouraged. In fact, this is a very "legit" 5th Gen VFR thread and it's topic is very real. The performance issues are going to be tweaked and validated on both Dyno and GPS Speed tracking. The question of the Euro ECU "G" has attracted a great deal of legit interest and I will do everything possible to deliver a final determination, please just be patient
     


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    A 5th Gen VFR 800 FI will go 146 mph

    782.00 ccm (47.72 cubic inches)
    Engine type: V4, four-stroke
    Power: 106.00 HP (77.4 kW)) @ 10500 RPM
    Torque: 80.00 Nm (8.2 kgf-m or 59.0 ft.lbs) @ 8750 RPM
    Top speed: 235.0 km/h (146.0 mph)
    Bore x stroke: 72.0 x 48.0 mm (2.8 x 1.9 inches)
    Valves per cylinder: 4
    Fuel system: Injection
    Gearbox: 6-speed
    Transmission type,
    final drive: Chain
     


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    Here is something to consider if there was a "Performance" full system this is what it would "most likely" look like and cost (more than I paid for my VFR !) Take a careful look compare the OEM headers which collect the from and rear exhaust into a 2 into 2 into 1, these high price "performance" headers take the two front exhaust into 2 into 1,just like the Black Widow, so either it does not matter or this must be what the experts have found are higher performance (whatever that means) It just goes to show that there is no real "expert" advice or opinions ��

    Look at this on eBay:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/272325261537

    Aprilia Akrapovic RSV4 RF RR Evolution Line Full Exhaust System 2S000556

    Look at this on eBay
    Aprilia Akrapovic RSV4 RF RR Evolution Line Full Exhaust System 2S000556
     


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    Here is something to consider if there was a "Performance" full system this is what it would "most likely" look like and cost (more than I paid for my VFR !) Take a careful look compare the OEM headers which collect the from and rear exhaust into a 2 into 2 into 1, these high price "performance" headers take the two front exhaust into 2 into 1,just like the Black Widow, so either it does not matter or this must be what the experts have found are higher performance (whatever that means) It just goes to show that there is no real "expert" advice or opinions. H

    here is the bigger question, with the newer model VFR 800 having an OEM 4 into 1, will it just be a matter of time me before the aftermarket offers a full "performance" system and if YES, would a 8th Gen 4 into 1 also work on a 5th Gen ?

    So suppose that happens and a 8th Gen VFR 800 4 into 1 will fit up and function fine on a 5th Gen VFR, would you be willing to spend $3000- on a full performance system? Or are these pricy systems geared more towards the high-priced motorcycles ? And if so, seems like it gets very very pricey, indeed

    Look at this on eBay:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/272325261537

    Aprilia Akrapovic RSV4 RF RR Evolution Line Full Exhaust System 2S000556
     


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    Looks to me like Cat2Rider is a rep with a Donald Trump complex.
     


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    Yes excellent, you bring up a valid point with the 5th Gen VFR, here we have an enduring proven commodity not only surviving, but actually thriving in the modern world of moryorcycling manufacturer marketing mania, often the 5th Gen is considered the yardstick to measure the rest and continues to do so to the delight of anybody and everybody lucky enough to actually own a 5th Gen, this in fact, further legitimizes this thread because along with the 5th Gen motorcycle itself, we are also validating what mods are actually readily available and obtainable. The 5th Gen VFR does not really need too much but being 15 years old there are obvious oppprtunities to replace and improve. Right now the two best mods without a doubt and also each over $1000 were the Full Stainless System (Black Widow & High Level Staintunes) and the DMr Suspension kit. The reason I say this is because the bike runs and sounds much better without the catelytic converter and the DMr suspension is perfectly silky and smooth. Those two item cost nearly as much as I paid for the bike but have made the bike that much better. So maybe the 5th Gen is actually undervalued in reality? A very good possibility because they are very scarce on the market. Next big ticket item is the Mike Corbin seat at about $500-, but from riding around on the OEM seat the past 2 months, what I can tell you is the Corbin seat has much denser foam and offers much better support along with some distinctive styling. The next costly item at $300 is the Power Commander and that in itself sets off enough controversy to get you banned by the status quo (self-purported) power expert tuning guru's, but I don't really think it's such a big deal, it's just a box that allows you to use custom fuel maps, I've spent the least amount of time, less than 15 mins saving a few different fuel maps and have gotten the most amount of scrutinized replies, (it's ridiculous) but the word "power" will unleash the worst effect a forum has to offer which is really just too bad, so no point in further irritating anybody, but for the money spent, the PC3 is a very good product but the results are not something easier shared on forums because it turns off topic very easily. Power is a real sensitivity and people spend literally $10's of thousands to have "bragging rights" and "power numbers" but all I spent was $300, so go figure ! Next is the derby cover and stator and rectifier that's being done now in Germany, it will add up to about $500-600 but I think it will subtly uplift the general appearance , very much just a personal choice, so that's about it, the bike is a real 5th Gen runner and legit backroad burner. I hope this gets truly reflected amongst the forum readers and it's got plenty of power too
     


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    Your horsepower. Claims are out 77.4 kw equates to 103.7 ( 104)
     


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    That's fine, that's why both kw and hp were stated, what about top speed?
     


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    That's fine 103.79 to be exact, that's why both kw and hp were stated, what about top speed?
     


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    I doubt any banning here will ensue. I do think any future sales of your product will be few. The clue here is that I do not have the bike (s) that are being talked about but I have a great nose for sales pitches disguised as infomercials, even those that have gone haywire.
     


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    Sales of my product? I work as a business analyst developing SQL algorithms for large capital business , plus there's hardly any volume of sales for a 5th Gen VFR, you are so far off from the truth, but that's fine, this thread is actually just about hobby recreational 5th Gen VFR, what mods are really available and what to expect, it's that simple and fundamentally has nothing to do with anything else, but be my guest falsely interpreting it, that's interesting too
     


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    Let us hope your algorithms are more functional than your sales pitches. May we then infer the arguments you present in favor of your system are merely academic?

    Case in point here is that Candy Red and others have timing documents and videos of "how fast" his bike is and you offer none save anecdotal readings made whilst ostensibly exceeding all manner of safe riding protocols and laws.

    Thanks for allowing me and the rest of the group who are calling BS on your posts to interpret.

    I am surprised that you have not used all the chipped bikes in the line as examples to justify the sales effort. Just a sales tip that..LOL

    Bottom line here is that what you may be trying to prove is one sided. Pitching a product or a system is great if terms are to be quantified. In simple terms, your equation does not balance.
     


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    Algorithms are the fuel for the database engines, my job is to connect and hold true based on critria that's subject to change, so everything must have perfect consistency. I totally understand why the replies are because of the way it can seldom stays on topic. This thread is very basic and simple and so far besides the parts I sent to Germany, the entire scope of all these 5th Gen mods have been done right out the back door. The moment third-party information begins to drive truth or logic, the effort will no longer be self-sufficient and will derail and end up a train wreck in the ditch. The absolute worse thing you can ever do is let anybody physically touch your bike or get involved in any way. I would never believe one word of anything over what I can determine for myself with the exception of rare occasions there might be an opportunity to be with a true expert because there are a few out there and the way you can tell is they can stay on topic and go deep
     


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    So with all the pesos you claim to have spent on your bike for various farkles are you a better rider or have you figured out how many pesos/mile it costs to be a not so fast guy?

    Could you post some of the names of those dudes who you would allow to touch your bike? Looks like from the pix, there might be more than touching possible with the bike out in the open like that.
     


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    In a thread full of bullshit, this takes first prize.
     


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    To stay "on topic" on this thread, one would actually have to know something, not present something else other than "on topic", so due to that fact,you're absolutely correct
     


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    To stay "on topic" on this thread, one would actually have to know something, not present something else other than "on topic", so due to that fact, you're absolutely correct.

    Here is something "on topic" there appears to be yet another full system exhaust option?


    Barracuda MAX RX Honda VFR 800 97-01 Fullsystem 4in1 with EG-ABE/Road

    http://www.barracudaexhaust.co.uk/B...0-97-01-Fullsystem-4in1-with-EG-ABE-Roadlegal


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