Why does it only start in nuetral?

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    As soon as I put the bike in gear it stalls?

    Any ideas?
     


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    Side stand kill switch? meaning your kick stands down and when you throw it in gear it shuts off.
     


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    Ok...I dont follow you...even if the stand is down and switch from neutral to 1st the bike stalls...

    I just cleanned the carbs is it possible I need to adjust them as well/?
     


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    That's what Woobie was saying. When the kick stand is down, and you throw it in gear, the bike stalls. It does this so you don't try to ride with the stand down. You should be able to start it in gear when you've got the kick stand up.
     


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    No Actually I cant start it in gear with the stand up......low battery more fuel required??
     


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    NO...I cant start it in gear with the stand up!!!

    I need help and I am confounded!
     


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    So it'll only start in Neutral and cut's off when you put it in gear? even when the kick stand is up?

    Even if you answer yes to both questions it could still be the side stand kills switch. I'm not sure what VFR's use but My Katana uses a plunger style kill switch. If it get's gummed up it'll stick and the bike will think the side stand is down even when it's up causing the bike to stall when clicked into gear.
     
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    Make sure that the side stand indicator, the amber light on the dash, is going out when the stand is up. If that is working properly and it won't start in gear, with the clutch engaged, then check the clutch switch, on the lever.

    :crazy:
     


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    ok...ill check it out...id rather disconnect it entirely
     


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    yes the amber light is going out...could it be fuel thing?
     


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    Ask Cundalini why the bike should not start in gear. :rofl::lmao:



    Sorry to Cundalini and for the thread jack.
     


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    I'd rather you tell me intead
     


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    The kickstand switch is there to prevent the bike jumping forward when you start it while parked.
    If it is in gear and you push the starter, there is enough force to propel the bike forward and dump it.
    Some of us have found this out the hard way.

    The kickstand/neutral switch is the best place to look for your issue.
     


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    Extremely bad idea. :rip:
     


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    Others are right. Check the kickstand switch. It could be faulty, stuck, etc. If you need to test it to see if it is the problem, you can disconnect the switch at the connector and use a jumper wire across the two terminals on the wiring harness side of the connector. If everything works fine then, it is a faulty switch that needs replaced.
     


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    Could be the clutch switch too...

    One thing I did notice on my 5th gen was that if the clutch wasn't squeezed in tight enough, the bike wouldn't fire up until put in neutral. Found this out when I finally put a death grip onto the clutch lever and the bike started. I adjusted the clutch and now operates just fine, no death grip needed.

    On mine, before i made the adjustment, when i squeezed the clutch it was silent, now after a decent squeeze the clutch switch makes a click and the bike will fire.
     


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    Sticky or failed switch is a possibility. Corrosion, broken spring ect. If the bike is stalling with the sidestand in the up (riding) position when first gear is engaged, the clutch could be at fault IMO. New clutch or clean up the plates on the current clutch, new fluid, low fluid or maybe something as simple as an adjustment to fit the riders style.

    Disconnecting a fail safe ain't a great idea as was stated.. Why? As the curtain opens..

    Our hero is tooling down the road. At a railroad grade crossing the gate comes down, the lights go blink and bells go ding-dong. Our hero is occupied reading all the tagging on the sides of the cars full of Chinese merchandise heading to WalMart, Sax and Neiman-Marcus. Also occupying his attention is his IPod, an incoming cell call about a pizza being ready and tapping the screen on his GPS unit to call up terrain maps for the middle of Nebraska.

    Our hero being the eagle eyed multitasker type senses and then spots the caboose in the distance. He has disconnected all that excess electrical crap on the bike to better enjoy the ambience of man and machine. He starts the bike, deftly engages the the clutch and whoops the SOB is already in gear and our hero becomes one with a Southern Pacific railcar full of plastic Easter eggs painted with lead paint.

    False neutrals become a thing of the past.

    Curtain.
     
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    I tried this also and the clutch switch tested fine...continuity when engaged...I will check to see that the lever is doing the job and pressing the switch shut.
     


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    I see your point...funny you said clutch....I checked all the plates and spacers as well as the basket and it looked fine and...maybe the springs are too tight? What are the torque settings for the springs?...Its got a Barnett clutch...
    I dont think it will be the sidestand but I will check it...
     


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    Thanks Meatloaf....! I will try that
     


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