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Updating the 86-87 VFR750 Dash and Clocks to a Newer VFR Style

Discussion in '1st & 2nd Generation 1983-1989' started by JasonWW, Oct 21, 2014.

  1. JasonWW

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    I'd like to swap in a 90-97 VFR dash on my 86 bike, so I did a bit of research.

    Here is the 86-87 regular style:
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    Here is the 86-87 F2 style:
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    Here is the 88-89 style:
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    Here is the 90-93 style:
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    Here is the
    94-97 style:

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    Fuel Gauge
    The 86/87 bikes only had the fuel low light sensor that made a light come on. The 88/89 bikes did not have this, instead they had a fuel level sending unit to work a gauge.

    If you want to swap in a 90-93 vfr dash, it would be easiest to leave the gauge non functional and hook the low fuel light to the side stand bulb. The 86/87 don't have side stand switches, so why not take advantage of that indicator light?

    If you want to swap in a 94-97 dash, they have both the light and the gauge.

    If you wanted to make the gauge work, the 88-89 bikes have a fuel level sending unit to operate the gauge. It appears to bolt into the same location on the 86-87 gas tanks. Here are some pics, notice that the bases look identical.

    86/87 low fuel light sensor:
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    88/89 fuel gauge sending unit:
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    By swapping to the 88/89 sending unit you'll loose the low fuel light, though. It may be possible to add the 86/87 low fuel light sensor to the 88/89 sending unit. You need to drill a hole through the lower base and rivet some plastic pieces on each side to seal the hole and allow an insulated path through the rivet. Them you'll have a 3 wire hook up. See the additional wire on the second pic below. It's a 94-97 sending unit which has both a light and a gauge.

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    I'm pretty sure the fuel sender will have the same voltage range as the 90-97 gauges. It's unlikely Honda changed it.

    Speedo Drive
    The 90-93 bikes had a mechanical speedo and it is a direct swap. The wheel speedo drive should hook right up. If you want to swap in a 94-97 dash, you'll need to convert a 90-97 front sprocket cover (I've already done) and then mount a 93-97 electronic drive unit. Then you can use a speedo healer and run whatever tire/sprocket combo you want and always have an accurate speedo. (That's my goal)

    Water Temp
    The water temperature sending unit is the same part number from 86-97, so that is a direct swap. No problem there.

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    Tach
    The tach is a bit more complicated. I think the 86 bike puts out half as many pulses from the ignition box as the 87-89 bikes. I remember people doing 87-89 motors into the 86 and the tach read half the rpm's it should have. The tach just needs a pulsed signal.

    I think all you'd need is to hook up the tach signal wire and see if it's accurate or not. If it reads half the rpm's it should, then you need a simple pulse multiplier/divider. Something like this:
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    It's like $50 USD and has dip switches that let you set the multiplier or divider you desire.
    Anyway, I hope that helps anyone else looking to do a swap.

    If anyone has more info, please contribute. Thanks.
     


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