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    hi all, im having a problem and need more advice. I have a 2002 vfr and it shut down just as I pulled into work parking lot, dead. I replaced battery and went for a ride, half hour into ride,dead again. I want to replace stator and r/r. what is a decent brand? ricks, procom, electrosport, theres a few online, just want to get a good one so I wont have problems for awhile. also my bike never had recall work done, so I want to look into that first, I was mailed a recall notice but when I contacted Honda with vin # they said there was no recall on that bike. is there a statue of limitation on recalls? thanks.. mike
     


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    Follow the link Mello Dude posted.

    There are no statute of limitations on recalls. Generically speaking, they are all considered "life safety" issues. Your bike is an '02 - there are probably 1000 members on here who could attest to there being a recall. So not sure who at Honda told you there wasn't one, but apparently they had their head up their ass that day.
     


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    Probably your reg/rec. The key to the stator check is to do the AC output reading. I had one go bad that ohm'd out within tolerance.
     


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    The stator and R/R may be good and it could be a wiring/connection problem. If you never had the recall done then it could be a good possibility that is the cause. Check the stator and R/R as Mello suggest above and if that all checks out good then check out the rest of the wiring for melted/burned connections. The wiring recal will replace some of the wiring harness and should still be valid regardless of the age of the bike.
     


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    thanks for info, I will get on that and let you know, thanks again..mike
     


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    just dropped off bike at dealer. there is a seat rail recall also? it will be a good start.
     


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    The problem should be fix after the new harness. I would replace with new stator and RR keep the old one for spare.
     


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    just got bike back from dealer. they said harness is replaced and my battery was toast, I just bought batt from them 6 months ago, so they replaced at no cost, took bike out for about half hour on sunday then to work on Monday.monday at break it was dead again, dealer said it was r/r. whats a good brand to get? im so tired of putting this bike in and out of my truck, being on the side of the road and my truck having more time with my bike than me!!! will do electrical testing this weekend.I bought an r/r online for a 2002-2009, the one they sent has a four pin plug,mine has a five pin. I returned it and got another. I got hold of the seller to be sure they sent the right one and he said they are the same for 2002-2009. do I have some oddball r/r because he sent a four pin al
     


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    I would follow the drill and replace the Stator and RR per Mellodude Link and put this problem to rest......Good luck and keep us inform.
     


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    Also, get rid of the stator/RR connector, solder the wires to each other, install a VFRNess and a voltmeter.
     


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    I bought a new r/r and put it in. started bike and checked voltage, at idle im getting 11.7-12.1. at 4000-5000 im getting 12.5. im going to do stator test but when checking those three yellow wires from stator it says to check pin to pin. does black lead have to be grounded to frame or is on another pin? also when I got bike back from dealer, one headlight was out so I looked and plug was never reconnected, so I plugged back in and it still didn't work. the back of bulb has three pins as does the plug, but plug only has two metal female blade type connectors on it, one is not there. is that normal or is this different year harness?
     


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    I'm kinda getting to the gotta be there point, so some ideas...... first I think overall the bike can be fine, but you have a dealer that is mush for brains. Some how they effe'd up your headlight connector.

    - Other - I'm not sure what black wire you are talking about.
    - Voltage test is still off.
    - Stator test. -- Its pin to pin, disconnected from the R/R -- test connector leads on stator side
    - R/R's -- so far at the moment I am pointing people to the FH020a -- roadstercycle.com
    - --- Also I have heard people working out ok with Ricks - I have no experience with it.
    ---- It seems that other brands eat it with out much effort.
    -------- Oem R/Rs sucks.

    What' s your mileage?
     
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    I am assuming you mean the black wire from the meter? So when testing Ohms with the bike off you put the red lead and black lead from meter to each of the three yellow wires two at a time. Let's label each of the yellow wires A, B, C. You would check A and B then A and C then B and C. You also need to check each of those yelow wires to ground. So with the meter on Ohms, put the black lead on a good ground point on bike and the red lead of meter to each of the yellow wires to get three readings. A to ground, B to ground, C to ground. If those readings check good via the link in post #2 then it is time to start the bike. Now you need to have you meter on AC voltage and test each of the yellow wires two at a time like before A and B, A and C, B and C. Then with bike reved up to around 5,000 rpms check all three again. You need at least three hands to do this and Don't let any of the wires or meter leads touch each other! Post all of your results here and we can direct you to your next step.

    The headlight- the low beams(and maybe the high beams also) have both a high and low filiment in the bulb hence the three spade connector BUT Honda just uses the low beam for the two inner light bulbs and the high beam for the two outer high beams. That is why there is no third spade connector in the wiring to the bulb. They probably noticed the bulb was out when they put every thing back together and unpluged it to test for power at the connector and maybe ohm out the bulb. So I am going to say it's probably just a bad bulb. Let us know how it goes.
     


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    thanks a lot you guys, your way helpful, I will do this today and post results. it was the black lead from meter I was talkin about. thanks again. bike has about 50,000 on it
     


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