This video shows the difference between expert riders and those that aren't. Also shows the outcome of you don't practice
Gator I never laughed so hard, especially around the 5.14 mark Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
If this video is the braking test they preformed then the braking distance numbers do not mean a thing The only way this would be a true test is if both riders were using the same bike with the same brake system
Even though this was a setup, I think the poor rider who couldn't keep his wallet, bike or cell phone was pretty funny.
Thanks You for posting the video Lint. I agree with Hingley, it isn't apples-to-apples. I suppose this is for inexperienced or advanced riders, not expert, to caution them to keep a normal braking distance. On the other hand, I wonder how an expert rider would fair if another expert driver was behind him and trying to prove a cage has the same braking as a bike? Minimum spacing, same speed (say 65 mph), both get to brake at the same signal.....Humm, I don't want to be the rider in that test! My other question about this test is how expert is the expert, and how new is the new rider? What are their experience levels? And, as always, it is very easy to skew these type of comparisons. I get the general idea, but just saying. Maybe if the new rider understood the punishment of not stopping in time to avoid a collision with a hard object they would have done better than what he/she did on a closed course with no obstacle. I would also be interested in how they calculated the G force results.
like the brakes on a ducati, r-6, or most 3-pot caliper setups on larger discs or like the triumph triple i rode at a demo day. alot of riders on older bikes can't guess how much better new brake stuff might be until riding.
I think when I read your reply, I was off in another subject confusing the two. Is your point, that some "new, modern bikes" have superior braking than those in the video and therefor superior braking compared to cars?
Good video I guess - but is anyone surprised to see that an expert can brake in a much shorter distance than a new rider who just finished their riding course? Hopefully no taxpayer dollars were spent on making that enlightening vid Maybe for their next video they can take Jimmie Johnson to a high school driver's education class and see if he can outbrake them What's more surprising to me is that even expert professional riders can stop quicker with ABS since I see many non-professional riders claim they can brake just as well without ABS:
I fully agree with you, as I have ridden a number of brand new bikes and especially with the BMW S1000RR I've ridden, there just isn't any comparison. I personally like their brakes even better than Ducati's, and I've ridden many of their bikes, all brand new.
remember that the last few feet near a stop sign or light is the SLIPPERIEST, so do the hardest braking earlier on the road ! it's a bad idea to approach a stop light with brakes on hard.
I currently have ABS on the BMW F800GS (which can be turned off, and I do for dirt). Personally, I never looked at ABS as to be able to consistently out brake a professional in controlled conditions. I see it more as for the "unseen,"....meaning the oil/antifreeze, loose gravel, or whatnot, on the road, as well as the surprises, that require you to produce a hard stop. Let professionals try it in a variety of reduced traction scenarios. Also, have them do it while riding out of their controlled conditions in the mountains, whilst dodging RVs, cars, trucks, and having wildlife (don't forget tourists) pop out at them at inopportune times? Will it be better to have ABS every time, probably not.....most times? I think, yes. Like those that argue they have a better chance of surviving without helmet, or while in a car, a seatbelt. Very tough odds to beat in the grand scheme of things. ABS might not blow up everybody's skirt, especially the purists, however, along with traction control, it really does work. Some models are just fine tuned (and able to be adjusted) better than others.
Thanks for posting this. It is a reminder to practice braking technique frequently. I have a friend that rides an older HD that took my last bike out for a spin. He was amazed at how well the brakes on my '83 GS850 Suzuki worked compared to his HD. Shortly after that I got my VFR and was amazed at how good the braking was compared to the Suzuki. Makes me wonder just how bad the brakes on his HD really are.
