Performance Boost Chip

Uhhhh - what is this?

+25BHP PERFORMANCE HONDA VFR 800 ST 1300 on eBay.ca (item 390064445225 end time 02-Aug-09 20:43:35 EDT)

Anyone think it really works?

 

YES!! and I bought some muffler bearing to go with it doubles to hp to +50 hp

:crazy:

 

The seller has 237 feedback with only 3 neutrals, the rest are all positive. <shrug>

 

Yeah right.. wanna buy a bridge?

 

You've got to be kidding. No way, no way at all. The dyno graph is b.s.

 

been there done that ** http://vfrworld.com/forums/modifications/21111-cheap-power-gain.html?highlight=chip **

 

I know - I tend to have doubts when there are spelling issues:

"BY WITH CONFIDENCE,"

Uh....Buy with confidence?

At least they could do a spell check before posting...

 

According to the Chinglish dictionary, that spelling is wholly correct.

 

I see lots of cute remarks from people in those linked threads, but I am more interested in someone that has actually tried this.

02 VFR Rider and Sandstrike have taken the plunge and bought these chips. They both claim that there has indeed been an increase. We just don't know why. Everyone else is just jumping on the bashing bandwagon without any hard facts, which I think is just pathetic.

 

hard facts???....the hard facts are they are claiming 25+hp from a chip! look at the dyno number they claim 191.9 hp??? 177.7 # of torque???? from a stock VFR???? Ive got a bag of magic poo I'll sell you for $15+ shipping it'll give you 45 extra horse power and I have 100 positive feedbacks so do you want it??


If you can get 25 more hp from just adding a chip don't you think that honda would put that on the bike and charge $1000 more for the bike. I mean think about it??? 25hp???on a bike that make around 100. thats like adding another 200CC to the motor. how many people would go buy a 1000cc vfr right now!!?? How much money could honda makefrom that chip?? So if it really worked why would they not buy the patent and use it??

BTW I dont have to eat crap to know what crap is. And this chip is crap!! If you want to waste your money on it.....well it's your money. But I'm not wasting mine and I'll try to keep other from wasting theirs.

 

You have offered nothing but your opinion. No hard facts, which I specifically asked for. Therefore, your post is valueless to me except to prove that you are one of the many people on this forum that like to post with no hard data, which is the only thing I value.

Next?

 

I did find another thread here about the same thing - after I started this one - so sorry about that:

http://vfrworld.com/forums/sixth-generation-2002-2009/12415-25-hp-d-boost.html

 

really????SHOW ME YOUR HARD FACTS!!
show me where a stock vfr make 191hp as they claim?? you can't and that's a FACT. So that also means they are lying..thats a FACT. since they are claining that their chip will give you 191hp. they are lying..that's a FACT!

so trust the lying sacks of crap if you must?? buy it then put your bike on the dyno so I'll have the hard fact you need so much. If if your vfr makes 191hp stock except the chip I'll eat my own crap!! and that's a hard FACT!!

BTW I dont post with out some knowledge of what I'm talking

I really hope your just playing devil advocat and not for real???

 

And you have hard facts that the chip does anything more than a placebo effect.

Caveat Emptor, if it's too good to be true, it almost always is. I concur with other the other sensible members of this board who claim this chip is BS in it's claims.

I'll tell you what, I'll buy the chip you. If it works and you can prove it on a DYNO from a reputable tuner shop, under similar ambient temperature/humidity environments WITH A VIDEO proof of the testing process... You'll keep the Chip and I'll even give you 50 dollars.

If you're WRONG, you pay me back for the chip and you write an affidavit to your gullibility.

If you get a 15-25HP Gain, I'll say you're victorious.

BTW, my FZ1 is 130RWHP stock and has 200ccs over the VFR, with 5 valves per cylinder... all the mods in the world less forced induction/increased compression and aggressive cam profile couldn't get it to 190.

 

Here's some facts-
1. The only way to get a 25% HP gain is through some serious engine and exhaust modifications. Even if you created a fully programmable ECU, that alone could not give you that kind of gain.
2. Because you can not alter the timing on the VFR (6th gen), even using a PC III, your fuel curve has restrictive limits. This means your going to get even less gain with a chip.
3. Even if the chip contained a fuel map, it would only be optimized for one set of conditions. That means a bike that is set up exactly to meet those conditions may run slightly better. Certainly not any better than installing a PC III or something similar.

There are many members that have spent serious money to get somewhere in the neighborhood of a 10 HP gain. Ask NCB how much he is spending on engine modifications and what kind of gain he expects.

I know for a while there was someone on ebay selling 02 eliminators and making some outrageous HP gain statements. Like PT said "There's one born every minute."

Action

 

The claim is for +25BHP, not 191HP. I have asked the seller a question on Ebay:

"The dyno chart in this listing was not from a VFR 800. What vehicle is this chart taken from? Thanks!"

I think it is plainly obvious that that dyno chart is not from any VFR 800 or ST1300, so that is a good point.

 

Then why would they post it with the VFR/ST part if they are not trying to FOOL a fool?? believe what ever you want ......you prove to me that they work....

because until you prove me wrong everything you have to say is pointless. so get back to me when you can prove the 25 hp gain from this chip

until then you are "just jumping on the bashing bandwagon without any hard facts, which I think is just pathetic."

 

At least you have some balls. :thumbsup:

I am skeptical, but I won't go making baseless claims that I know something when I don't.

There is a dyno tuner a little over an hour from where I live. I will buy the chip myself and test it out on the dyno without any other mods to my bike.

I want to see for myself what this thing does or does not do. That way we will all be speaking from facts instead of out of our asses.

BTW, I never said that I believed that this thing would do anything. I said that I believed that no one really knew if it did anything, yet everyone except for the two people that actually bought the product claimed to know that it was crap, a placebo, etc.

Maybe it's crap. Maybe it isn't. Maybe it does in fact boost the BHP +25 (which isn't the same as RWHP) but does undesirable things to get there.

However. the fact remains that nobody knows, which was the point that many of you have completely missed.

 

oh snap how about slick fifty how much power will i get if i use that, there's no such thing as cheap power! speed cost money, how fast do you wanna go!

 

Ok...

The seller responded and here it is:

Dear deadsmiley,

SUzuki GSXR 1000

- powertuning.2009

Umm... What!? Since when does a GSXR 1000 peak out before 6k RPM? Or produce 191 HP for that matter...