OEM fairing re-spray?

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    Hi,
    Has anyone ever had the OEM fairings re-sprayed back to the original colour?
    Or is this specific to honda and would any sprayshop be able to replicate it?
    Mine is Candy Red 6th Gen Vtec and although only minor scratches and no cracks it has gone through to the plastic.
     


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    Using the "generation" method to determine anything on VFRs is not a great idea. The paint code is on a permanent sticker on your bike. Any sprayshop can do the work but will they? Many auto painters do not like painting bikes. Even though what appears to be minor scratches may be that, there is a significant amount of work in a total repaint.

    Best bet? Buy a book on custom automotive painting or try the public library for a current text.
     


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    Candy Glory Red R101C is a multi layer paint system colour which was applied to a lot of Honda Models over several years, so most decent paint-shops will be able to get hold of the base, topcoat and clear laquer paints needed to do a full respray.

    As BB points out it can be done but even if you have friends in the trade it probably wont be cheap as it will require a lot more time and effort than most people envisage. Costs get even higher if you are also expecting the paint shop to dismantle repair and prep the panels, and reinstate them afterwards. So its probably a good idea to tackle the dismantle/rebuilding yourself.

    You will probably find that sourcing OEM 6th Gen decals is not cheap and that some decals are already hard to get hold of. 6th Gen bikes can be well over 10 years old and with the 8th Gen models taking front stage at dealerships, it won't be long before Honda reduce their 6th Gen parts inventories. If you are planning to do this work it might be sensible to track down OEM decals whilst they are available.

    If you do decide to go ahead I am sure there may be others who might be interested to see before and/after photos and an indication of the cost and time-frame and ideally the name address of whoever did the work. It just might inspire a fair few follow up enquries.

    Good luck - let us know how you get on.



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    Paint terminology varies from place to place as do color codes. In UK color "names" are expressed as numbers. In the States, colors are named although this is not an always or never scenario.

    Candy colors are specifically an undercoat and a glaze. The original undercoats were classified as "pearls" and were herring scales suspended in nitrocellulose lacquer. The most popular glaze at the time was red due to it's natural translucency. Hence "Candyapple" red.

    The use of the term "lacquer" depending again on where one is, can be misleading. The original "lacquer" depending on which story is accurate was either shellac, a biochemical or the Oriental lac which is still a secret and thought to be plant based. American "lacquer" can be made from gun cotton (nitrocellulose) or acrylic polymers.

    Many modern auto and bike paints are highly complex two component formulas much like epoxy and polyester resins.

    Application of same in a solid color can be fairly easy for an experienced painter. When dealing with multiple layers, the story changes. IOW, ya got one shot with no chance of fixing...

    Best bet? Again, buy a book. Walking into a paint shop withoot prior knowledge or some homework is like walking into a Harley dealer with 20 K in your pocket and hoping you are going to have enough left for a tank of gas.

    Good luck on both..
     


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    I had mine done at a local shop. I used a shop where the owner is into restoring older cars, mostly performance cars. This, to me, indicated a willingness to do a good job rather than just good enough. I was not wrong. I gave him the paint code number from under the seat. He was able to bring in the proper stuff and do an excellent job. Well, his people did. He insisted if I was not happy, bring it back and it would be fixed. That never had to be done. If I do this over again though, the tank would get two or three coats of paint and two or three clear coats. Maybe two coats of clear over the whole set of panels. The tank seemed to scratch up relatively easy but I blame myself and the way I tour for that.

    I did not replace the original markings as I was putting on a one off decal kit. Next time around, I think I will just paint it the white and no decals.
     


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    I bought the recommended 3 part paint system from Color Rite to shoot the R1 front fender I installed on my 93 in Pearl Crystal White, NH193P.

    Its all in the prep. make sure all repairs are done, correctly, invisibly, before the primer goes on.

    Colors can be ordered in everything from spray it yourself rattle cans to quart cans for professional use, in the original polyurethane.

    If you have the space and skills, do it yourself. Or take it apart, prep it for your local professional painter.

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    When I cleaned up my 83, I bought a used tank and all the plastics from and 85, totally different color scheme. Got everything but the left side cover. I had a highly recommended local painter respray one of my original side covers to the new scheme, I supplied the decal and he painted the 3 colors. Damn if I could tell the difference between the two side covers! Not cheap, but worth every penny.
     


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    You might even call the local Honda dealers and ask who they source for their warranty and paint work and then go to them direct since they will have access to these paints and be familiar with bikes. Sometimes, dealers will give the name out and sometimes they won't. If one will not give to you, then keep calling around until one does. My local dealer gave me name and I went to them and guy did better work than factory paint job repainting one of my fairings when I dropped bike (yes, it is listed on Randys drop thread). Good luck.
     


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