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  1. signal

    signal Definitely Not New Member

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    My VFR800 has too much oil in it (the sightglass is completely full, no bubble at the top). I need to drain some. I thought I could just take off the oil filler cap and use my little hand pump to suck out some, but I see no oil in there, I got a flash light and looked down as far as I could but it just looks empty. Bike has been sitting off for about 24 hours. Perhaps the oil is just way down there and I need a thinner tube?

    I was hoping to avoid opening the oil drain plug, as that sounds like it will be a mess, as I only need to let out maybe 10 oz or so.

    Any advice?
     


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    Just do an oil/filter change.. Its easier
     


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    Turkey Baster with a short piece of tubing attached.
     


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    Or just loosen the oil filter and let some drain as previously stated.....no need to actually change the filter.
     


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    Did the same thing. Overfilled once. I bought a cheap turkey baster and attaches a short length of surgical hose to the end with some silicon. Works great and everything readily available and cheap.
     


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    Righto !! Don't let Randy near the drain plug ! :party2:
     


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    thanks everyone, I tried to get some 3.5mm vacuum line in there to suck some out, but just wasn't able to do it with my hand pump.

    I ended up just draining and refilling. Shop had put 4 qts it appears in it! (I gave them 4 qts of oil since with new filter its 3.1qts, but I also handed them my service manual too).....anyways all fixed, thanks
     


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    That's too bad. Because a cheap turkey baster and a foot long length of rubber surgical hose will cost you about 7 bucks, and would have been so much easier. But I don't think anyone realized it was the shop that over filled. In which case, they fix the problem. Hope you did not re-use the oil you drained out? That is a no no. The oil could be exposed to far too many contaminants after being in a drain pan.
     


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    I did not bring it back to the shop that did the change, because my frustration level is so high with them, I would rather have them stay away.

    I did re-use the oil! I did not know I should not do this. So the oil was recently changed (300mi ago or so). They overfilled it. So today I drained it into a oil pan (new pan), it sat in the pan about 20 min, I then poured it back in, minus about 1 qt (so 3 qt's total went back in). Also when I poured it back in, I used one of those funnels from Autozone with the hose attachment and it has a mesh filter in there (similar to whats on a water facet)

    If you think I should I can just drain it again, and fill with brand new oil, I assume I can just leave the filter in there since its only 300mi old.

    The oil was 10W-30, I live in Florida, so I was thinking if I did change it again, I should use maybe 10W-40, thoughts? The manual shows that in hotter climates 10W-40 is recommended. But I am wondering if I can just leave my filter in there, drain the oil and fill with 10W-40 even though it had 10W-30 in there before?
     


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    That is a good idea.
     


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    I really don't know. This is your call. Draining into a very clean brand new pan certainly lessens the opportunity for contaminants so you may be fine. I assume this won't be an issue again because once burned always cautious, and after oil changes, you will check levels and deal with the dealer right away. Oil changes are not difficult, but kinda expensive to have done by a dealership or shop so this is what most usually learn to do first. You just may start to do some of your own servicing starting here. If so, get the damned turkey baster!

    One thing I will advise on though, if you do your own, don't just loosen the fairings an pry them back to access the oik filter. Remove the whole panel. Repeated forcing of the fairing is likely to cause the fairing to fail where it narrows by the side stand on the left at the bottom and break. That happened to mine when I was getting oil changes done at the shop.
     


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    Maybe I should start an on line at VFRW threat petition to get one added.
     


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    Get the 10-30 out. Leave the filter. Add 10-40 and ride until due for next oil change!

    When adding the new oil just put in 2 quarts and watch the sight glass. Start adding the 3rd quart and fill only until you see the oil level come up just above the lower line. Start the bike, run for a few seconds and then top off the oil so it stays in between the two lines. Do not fill right up to the top line. After the bike sits awhile on the center stand you will be surprised at how much the oil rises when the oil drains back out of the engine.
     


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