More False Neutrals

I know I've seen something on this before but I was wondering if theres any new info on it. I get a couple of false neutrals per ride and its usually happening after my bike gets warmed up. I usually get this problem after a long run on the backroads when I finally have to stop for something. When I go for second the revs go racing up and I feel silly losing all forward momentum for that quick second or two. The shifting seems clunkier afterward too. I've tried a little upward pressure but it doesn't seem to do much, then just as quickly as it started next stop it goes in like nothing with very little pressure.:frusty: My previous bikes weren't this bad.... Any suggestions?

 

Sounds like you are doing the right thing. Usually a slight uplifting preload with your toe will make the shift fast and smooth.

 

That doesn't sound good to me. Granted I haven't had my gen 5 VFR more than 3 months but it hasn't once given a false neutral. Considering your bike is new, I'd take it in to get checked out. Maybe something needs adjusting.

Now the Intruder 800 I had was a f.n. MACHINE. If you didn't really jack up the lever, it would find a nice happy home between the cogs.

 

A stab in the dark here... chain tension?
I used to get falsies on the '88VFR and that was her way of letting me know.

 

I have a service scheduled for the end of season check over before there are too many leaves and sand on the road to ride safe. I am going to have them look into it as well as a knock that seems to be coming from under the tank when I go over bumps. Something seems loose in there....

 

alter: check the chain... you can do it yourself if you haven't... with Global Warming, there may not be an end of season :wink:

Swoop: I watched for like twenty rounds... does the chimp avatar ever need a new clip? how's he do that? What's he shooting at?

 

Does it just fall into N between 1st and 2nd? or do you find Ns other places (between 2-3 or 3-4 etc)?

 

yeah check the chain. my KTM 200 did that and after tinkering to figure out what was up i adj the chain a bit and WA-LA it was fixed! dont know if it is the same for a streetbike but it is definetly worth a try!

 

I have the same problem . at speed , it then becomes difficult to get it Into second , and makes a stinker grating sound when you force tap it up into second ... a little unnerving to say the least .

 

I just ordered one of these for mine to help with smoother shifting:


http://www.factorypro.com/products/shift_kit,Factory_Pro.html



Ill let you know how it goes but looks like its 100% better than stock.

 

I will be checking the tension on the chain.... never know, it seems right in range but I'll be able to sit on it and have someone measure it with weight on the bike. That kit looks intiresting, let me know how it works..... Def, that is an awfull sound when you tap it in if you don't match the revs right. I try to give it a good blip but I miss it sometimes. The problem does seem to be after warm up when I've been riding on some nice roads for a while. At first I thought I was just going a little brain dead from the rolling of the roads:hippie: I even started wondering if it was my riding shoes not giving enough feel. I just hope its nothing major or something I can change in my technique to fix.

 

My bike did it all the time after I just got it.Turns out the dealer installed a new chain and didn't tighten it down.I adjusted it and it's been good since.Just remember to have someone sit on it first to check the slack.

 

yip. Awful sound !!! "GET IN THERE , YOU ...." !!! scratch , Second ...........

How's that damn shifter with the bearing on the end !! Looks like It'll actually work . makes sense . shifter rolls off your foot then .. mmmm.....

Not enough feel on the foot : I went out and bought some boots , thinking it might be that - nope !!

 

It's a special gun like those in Hollyweird movies... NEVER need reloading!!!:madgrin:

 

90 miles today.... one false neutral. My fault on that one, boot wasn't all the way under the shifter. It was cooler today and I was really concentrating on not missing the gate. Much more deliberate on the 1-2 and I tried to note the rpm where I was shifting and the distance the lever seemed to have to move. The chain is in spec and everything seems normal so it could be just a feel thing. After really paying attention to it I noticed the sole on my boot sometimes catches the peg in a less than perfect spot to make a clean shift. Especially for that shift. The neutral gate just seems wide on this bike.

 

As long as you don't have Ns between other gears, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I had a V45 Magna which had a N between 4-5. Shortly after that, it wouldn't shift past 4th. I think the PO had been really hard on it, shifting w/o clutch and jamming it into gear.

 

Agreed.
unlike my trx 400 , which I can hardly ever get into Neutral Anymore .

CLutch is mucked , but the neutral on that bike aint nothing to write home about ..

 

I just replied to another post about shifting. I experience false neutrals also. I've experimented with different chain slack, my technique and shifter position. None of them have cured the issue completely. I'll be purchasing the new detent arm listed above this winter.