Linked Braking

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  1. Dick D

    Dick D New Member

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    At my last service I was told my front nearside pads were a bit worn. Not in need of replacement yet, but keep an eye on them. Front offside not worn as much.
    It was explained this is due to the linked brakes. If I use the rear brake, then it also operates the front left caliper. I have used the back brake only for gentle braking in town driving.
    Question:
    If I use both front and back together will I still get uneven wear?
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    You will stop quicker -

    It should even itself out a bit..
     
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    The piston is on the inside and that pad hits the disc first. If you are only lightly braking then the outside pad may not be pulled into contact with the disc, thus wearing out the inside pad faster than the outside. Some people will flip them once in a while to help even out the wear.
     
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    Is there any way to ‘un-link’?


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    There is a thread somewhere on here about how to do it.. I read about doing it as I Fing hate linked brakes. But it was an involved process.
     
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    Basically if you have ABS, then don't do it.

    If you don't then plenty of options are open to you.
     
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    This is not because of linked brakes, there are 4 pads per calliper, two big one operated by the front brake and two smaller ones operated by the rear brake. It's the same on both sides, your uneven wear is probably due to the brakes binding on that side, you need to check the pistons move in and out freely, you should be able to push them back with your fingers.
     
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    Its not as thought it was ? Pull the front brake only, Six pistons from the front right hand caliper press in, Four pistons from the left. The rear Brake presses on two of the small pads on the front left caliper via a proportioning valve on the rear. So .. squeeze the front only, you get six pistons on the right, four pistons on the left. Am I wrong in my understanding ? There's only one hose to the front right, and two hoses to the front left.
     
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    Nope you are correct, however your problem is you are not using the brakes as designed. It is not a sports bike & doesn't react like it. You really need to use both brakes.
     
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    I think you maybe correct.
     
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    Just making sure we all understand how the linked brakes work .. Different than earlier Generation Hondas. And No, the one smaller pad should not wear faster than the other, they are not sliding calipers, one piston per pad. The Brakes do however have a reputation for sticking pistons on Bikes ridden through the UK winter, which will wear pads unevenly, and even distort the Disk.

    Pulling the front only used to activate a secondary slave piston on the left caliper, and put the back brake on as well. This does not happen on the 1200, Best to routinely brake with both front and rear
     
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    Is that a fact? I didn't know that the 7th gen brake calipers have pistons on both sides of the disk, interesting. Also, if the linked system does not apply the rear when the front brakes are applied, what is the point of linking the brakes? Is it only to help riders that are afraid to use the front brakes for fear of locking up the front or going over the bars?
     
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    VFR1200 front brakes.jpg

    This is a better write up, from the workshop manual ..
     

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    I use both brakes 90% of the time!


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    A complicated way of saying its ok just to replace the two small pads in the left had caliper by themselves if they've worn away. But replace the rest of them in both calipers as a set, because they are your front lever.
     
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