So its not completely gutted..I took the easy way out and dremmeled the outside of the cans..then using a little disc, went inside the tubes and cut them from the inside out...It has a little growl finally...I still can not here it over the engine when in vtech...With the 2 up sprocket coming this week and a new tire I should be up for a couple hour ride...I do believe that any more cutting would of resulted in a little to loud sound...My girl friend loved when I switched to a VFR from a CBR...she said its so quiet and smooth...well I will get a video up soon enough....thanks to this site for the awesome tutorial.. killer