Discussion in 'Anything Goes' started by deepdish, Jul 23, 2009.
Move over bear and share your popcorn!
Com'on elf, its not even fucking winter yet. Save this shit for later.
A cop who's trespassing arrests a guy in his own house?? That has to be dead wrong !!!
Anyone who's lived in the USA for more than 5 minutes knows that cops represent the racist element in society and will bust a black man with less justification than a white.
Yes Jake, OUTSIDE to HIS FRICKEN PORCH! And I heard from the cop today; "He even said something about my mother, and was yelling." OH $HIT, if that's all it takes, I want the 4 DI's I had at Boot Camp fricken on death row!
That's from the cop, TODAY. Dude, trust me, anyone come fricken with me in my own house, and I follow him outside on MY PORCH, something about his mother and "yelling" will be the LEAST of their worries. I am a fricken MARINE vet, I can make paint peal with my foul mouth! And I know how to put air behind my foul language at that.
I'm sorry, until someone finds me a law that states I can't be belligerent in my home or on my property, then the cop was wrong and the guy wins, period. Which is why they dropped the charges.
But, I do agree, as I said, The Pres coulda been more "political" in his answer. But, that's not what was asked of him, nor frankly what I want; but I also know the difference between ideology & reality, so I would have advised him, no matter how stupid it is, to side skirt the issue... But, I'm NOT gonna hang the guy now, because he spoke his mind, TELLING you he was biased upfront.
Everyone's saying he should stay out of it, it's too lowly an issue, it's a local issue, too petty for the Pres, etc.; 1. forgets HE WAS ASKED the question and 2. should practice what they preach, and move the fruck on. Fricken hypocrites...
"paint peel with my foul mouth"
Bwahhhaaaaahaaaahaahhaaaaaahaaaahaahahaaa good one
The President has the right to mouth off about anything he see's fit, he was asked a question and he gave an answer. He was not the one who brought the issue up....it was the media stirring the shit and then some shit spewing racial genius from Texas brought it here, to the middle aged, conservative, predominantly white, VFRW forum, hoping to get more people on some type of bashing bandwagon.
As another infamous person stated with their 15 minutes of fame, "Can't we all just get along?"
Tick, tick, tick, :boom:
That is an uninformed assumption. Normally, a recruit will receive training in the academy regarding police reports. Specifically, the establishment of "probable cause." Probable cause is a minimum legal standard for a legal arrest. You may have noticed that the report had two parts: 1) the full report; and 2) the abbreviated report, or "gist."
As to the actions of the professor, it is arrogant to think that you are goiong to dress down the police office and walk away. There is an old saying: "You may beat the rap but to can't beat the ride." Right or wrong, why take the chance of ending in in general population of a POS lockup? Give the office your ID and keep your mouth shut instead of going off on the guy withh the badge and gun. The arrestee may very likely win in a civil proceeding later on. But was going to jail worth it? Black, white, hispanic, asian, whatever, just promote the end off the situation. Why escalate it? I've been stopped a couple of time by an office that was obioulsy in a bad mood. "Yes officer." "Yes, here is my licence, registration and proof of insurance officer." If I had told the office to F off - I would have gone to jail. Period. Hell, before I sold my MACH 1 Mustang, I considered putting "YESOFCR" on the license plate (yeah that by itself might have ended poorly, but THAT would have been funny). Down here in New Orleans, general population of the Orleans Parish Prison is the DEAD LAST place in this city that you want to spend the night in. Maybe the Cambridge jail is sunshine and daiseys though!
Guess there will not be many rapid responses to any further calls of trouble at the subject address....
Laws vary from state to state but check this out from the State of Louisiana:
La.R.S. 14:285 — Telephone communications; improper language; harassment; penalty
§285. Telephone communications; improper language; harassment; penalty
A. No person shall:
(1) Engage in or institute a telephone call, telephone conversation, or telephone conference, with another person, anonymously or otherwise, and therein use obscene, profane, vulgar, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature or threaten any illegal or immoral act with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass another person.
(2) Make repeated telephone communications anonymously or otherwise in a manner reasonably expected to annoy, abuse, torment, harass, embarrass, or offend another, whether or not conversation ensues.
(3) Make a telephone call and intentionally fail to hang up or disengage the connection.
(4) Engage in a telephone call, conference, or recorded communication by using obscene language, when by making a graphic description of a sexual act, and the offender knows or reasonably should know that such obscene or graphic language is directed to, or will be heard by, a minor. Lack of knowledge of age shall not constitute a defense.
(5) Knowingly permit any telephone under his control to be used for any purpose prohibited by this Section.
B. Any offense committed by use of a telephone as set forth in this Section shall be deemed to have been committed at either the place where the telephone call or calls originated or at the place where the telephone call or calls were received.
C. Whoever violates the provisions of this Section shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.
D. Upon second or subsequent offenses, the offender shall be fined not more than five thousand dollars, or imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than two years, or both.
First off, Napoleonic Law don't count, no one else uses it but y'all. :wink:
Second, I meant verbally speaking on my property, not over the wire.
Incidentally, any law can be twisted to make it fit; letter of the law vs. spirit of the law...
It does not get better than this.....sorry for the time out...game on....:biggrin:
Dos Echo3 can you PM me on HOW TO do the following,
Hahahaha, I can't type it, I don't know how to spell half of it! And some of it I make up as I go... :biggrin:
To a degree, you got me on #1 above. However, there were no telephones when the Code Napoléon was originally scripted and certainly not in the time when the Corpus Juris Civilis. Therefore, the aforementioned law was drafted is somewhat more of a modern era. :smile:
Second, while I do not know the law in your jurisdiction, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that there is a law that prohibits "inciting a riot" or "public disorderly conduct" etc.
It is not incedental that the Constitution of the United States is still in existence today having intentionally been drafted in a manner that allows for both the letter and the spirit of the law. For example, the Seventh Amendment to the Constitution allows for a trial by jury "...where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars...." While the right to the jury remails intact (the letter) the individual states have been allowed to increase the minimum thereshold for a jury trial to a higher amount in the interest of judicial economy (the spirit). Many scholars have opined that the U.S. Supreme Court has been overly broadened/extended the Constitution beyond the intent of our founding fathers. The Court's power to "expand" the Constitution is based on its ability to "interpret" the Constitution by piercing the "letter" of the law and ruling by the "spirit" of the law. Just as ou stated above, some folks have stated the the Coustitution that all police officers and service men swear an oath to protect has been "twisted." Isn't is ironic that the Court has ruled (by spirit or letter?) that the Constitution allows citizens the "right" to burn the symbol (the U.S. Flag) of the document (Constitution) that allows the right to burn the symbol?
Just a thought.
I love this one, and yes I have used it in situations much like the one they describe. I use it for people who just can't behave like a human being, after several warnings to settle down, and usually at least one warning of their impending trip to jail.
76-9-102. Disorderly conduct.
(1) A person is guilty of disorderly conduct if:
(a) he refuses to comply with the lawful order of the police to move from a public place, or knowingly creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition, by any act which serves no legitimate purpose; or
(b) intending to cause public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, he:
(i) engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous, or threatening behavior;
(ii) makes unreasonable noises in a public place;
(iii) makes unreasonable noises in a private place which can be heard in a public place; or
(iv) obstructs vehicular or pedestrian traffic.
(2) "Public place," for the purpose of this section, means any place to which the public or a substantial group of the public has access and includes but is not limited to streets, highways, and the common areas of schools, hospitals, apartment houses, office buildings, transport facilities, and shops.
(3) Disorderly conduct is a class C misdemeanor if the offense continues after a request by a person to desist. Otherwise it is an infraction.
damn, better than The Bourne Ultimatum, cept no car chases yet
I read the report, and all the media reports i could find on this today. This whole situation could have been avoided if the citizen just produce identification when asked, and acted calmly. Why did this "pillar of the black community" have to be so anti police, and anti white? I understand people hate the police, i understand people hate white people. I expected more from a harvard professor.
I am happy the Sergeant is standing up for himself, and i am happy his Chief and the union has his back on this. Obama would have been better served (even if its his friend) to wait to pass judgement. Learn all the facts first.
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