Newenough.com is selling the Moto GP Alpine pant for only $79 bucks (retail $169.95). A riding buddy of mine has them and they appear to be really good quality. Thought I'd share, I just ordered myself. http://www.newenough.com/moto_gp_alpine_wp_pants_page.htm On a side note, what would it take to have VFRworld as one of the participating websites to contribute the $1 dollar donation upon a purchase with them? Nothing against VFRdiscussion, but I'd rather contribute my buck to this site. Michael?