Ok, so got mah first 'challenge' from a harley rider - new to him 2007 fat boy. "This will kick the ass of that crotch rocket of yorn" sez he; "Pr'olly could" sez I , then he say " I'd whip your ass in the quarter, but you'd get me on the top end " and I allowed as how that was pr'olly true ... Then sez I " Such and Such road at midnight tonight " - harley dint respond to that directly. So later I looked at the numbers - stock fatboy makes only about 77 hp (!), but lot more torque than a 2000 vfr . But the harley weighs like 650 lbs. or something. Would I indeed lose "in the quarter" ? Would I destroy mah clutch trying ? And when I win, what's in it for me ? bragging rights on beating a harley ? meh. Advice needed.