bolt in fuel injection

I saw on another forum the idea to switch to fuel injection but it was still a labourous project... is there anything that provides a bolt on kit for gen 3 with minimal modifications?

 

I have never heard of it being done on the Honda V4's. If there is a way to instal the EFI off the newer gens Im guessing there is a total reworking of alot of wiring. Don't sound like an easy project.

 

It is hopeless and carbs are not that bad. Well ......anything can be done but at a point why would you?

 

Just leave be......like Toe said carbs aren't that bad...besides you would have to get ashit load of part ,sensors, the little black boxes to make it run, save the money and get one that has the factory istalled FI set up...... now if your going at it in a purely engineering standpoint I say go for it and keep. Pictures flowing this way....

 

If you're really that sold on the need for FI, you'll need a newer gen VFR. And a Power Commander to make it work right.

Fi is a cure for....................nothing i can think of.

Practically no VFR injection setup is as smooth as carbs at low speeds.

 

Top Ten Things FI Cures:

1. Carbs
2. The need to set float heights
3. The need to tear the entire machine apart to change or adjust AF ratio
4. The need for diaphragms
5. The need for carb gaskets
6. The need for Sea Foam
7. No more "I have fuel coming out of my carb overflow tubes, Help!" threads
8. No more AF ratio adjustability compromises
9. Carbs don't come with a "carb" light to aid in troubleshooting, when the inevitable carb failure takes place and the bike starts running like shit...even though it ran great on my way TO work.
10. Carbs

I dare you to google carbs and trouble.......

As for your assessment of throttle smoothness, it can be made seamless, (I know this as fact because I have the machine to prove it) for the same price as a few jets. Most of the time, it is the thing controlling the throttle tube itself that is the problem. I wouldn't waste a wooden nickel trying to bolt FI on anything that didn't come with it.

Waiting for "The Donald" to post up some of his 1960's heroin logic concerning new technology and why older is better.... Old mechanics never die, they just never get any upgrade training.


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the reason for this thread is to explore easy solutions... i'm sure they can be out there.


this guy has done it with a bit of work and using gsxr parts I appologise for linking to a competing forum

Just Wanted To Show Off A Little Somethin Somethin - VFR Discussion

If carbs were so great you would see them in most production cars. obviously i'm looking for easy but exploring the idea my provoke ideas to change the difficult to merely annoying (and i find changing spark plugs on all faired bikes i've worked on annoying.

 

Carbs are archaic and annoying, that is why FI was created. As for the guy that has done this, it looks like he never finished..... There are no free lunches with this stuff and I would be hesitant to recommend that somebody attempt this.


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Back when I got my 04 FZ1 the fact the it was carbed was a selling point to me. I had never had an FI & I'm one of those people who hate CHANGE. Now granted the Mikuni carbs on my Yamaha are likely the "best" carbs used on a production bike just to how new they are. Kinda the end of an era. I'm had my crash corse in FI since and I'm no longer scared of it. The proformance that the FI bikes give is great, I'm still not happy that I have to go spend hundeads of dollors on PC's or other black box voodoo if I want to add a slip on or a K&N filter, but thats where were at. One other issue to me is I LOVE old bikes. It's not uncommon to see Honda CB's from the 70's still running strong. Is all this Tech in the FI bikes going to be able to say the same after 40 years?

 

It isn't "common" to see CB's from the 70's. $219.00 for a Power Commander is cheaper than buying jet kits and it's a lot easier to install and operate. But like you mentioned, your biggest issue is that you dislike change. You forgot to add "You damn kids get off my grass" to the end of that post...


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After everything is said and done, you won't make anymore horsepower with fuel injection vs PROPERLY setup carbs. What you will get is easier tuneability (performance) and more flexibility in different weather conditions/altitude. If that's what your after then don't even mess around trying to adapt to your bike. Buy one with it on. Unless your an engineer with a lot of automotive/motorcycle engine design/building experience. It's not for the faint of heart people.