Bagging on FRAM?????

I am a bit curious as to why everyone says not to use Fram oil filters. I would think a large company like that would do the necessary R & D to make a decent product. Please please correct me if my assumption is inaccurate.

 

Well, ask yourself this: Would you say that GM, Chrysler, and Ford ever misled people in the past? They are VERY large companies, and you figure they would be able to make a decent product (think more in the past, but present as well).

Also, many, many large companies have been caught misleading the public all for the benefit of making a fast buck. Many times, it comes back thru word of mouth (especially with the internet these days, it spreads like wildfire) and bites them in the ass.

FRAM.....I have heard and read about them failing inside, and leaking back dirty oil to the engine, also, they like to use a lot of cardboard, where other quality oilfilters use metal.

That said, will your engine explode if you use them, most likely not. Use what you want, as well as what oil you want. Just change it on a regular basis. There are significant differences in quality in oil and filters, but it takes many years to notice the difference most times. Just do your research online, and go from there.

 

Sorry
Your assertion is incorrect.

#1. Reason to mislead = money

FRAM is capitalizing on market share. They hedge their bets on the customer not knowing anything and believing the hype. They are all about the pennys they save. They make shit when it comes to oil filters.

 

If I remember correctly, Fram Filters & Champion Spark-Plugs, are owned by the same Corporation.

They aren't willing to make a good Quality Spark-plug, so why would they make a good Quality Filter?

 

I just put a FRAM on my girls bike, I'm not worried. I don't think the price difference is worth it to buy a K&N, not to mention the fact that K&N has had recent problems with fairly substantial leakage from the spot welds on the built in nut. I'll take no leaks thank you. This all being said and considered, I'm running a re-useable filter on my ride and loving it.

 

Not to pick a fight but.........first school you go through in Caterpillar back in the day was basic engine. The very first thing the very first day is oil filters. Every brand of filter is on a table and cut open and the instructor want's to know what we run and trust. Fram is the brand of choice by all but is by far the lowest quality. Helen Keller could see how poor they are. Factory filters are almost always top notch as well as Napa filters. Cut a Fram open and cut a Honda filter open. Two different animals. You can plug a Honda filter and Fram will come apart. No need to argue or yell until you cut the two apart. Not my two cents so much as a fact.

 

I don't get it with you guys, Fram filters cost like $8-9, K&N is around $11-13, oem like $8-9, and a very good Hiflo oil filters for $5-6 who actually makes the K&N filters gets totally ignored??? Wtf? Am I missing something? Best value here is use the HiFlo, you get all the qualities of the hyped up and overpriced K&N for $5-6 minus that stupid nut on the end which to me is worthless on most applications and sometimes worse then the regular style depending on clearances on some bikes. Personally I use my stash of Vesrah oil filters ive scored for $4 each I've had for my Yam and triumph. Every bike forum I've been at people say "oh get the K&N filters it's da best", according to what? The fuck if I know.

 

WHOA....dude, take a breather.....it's gonna be OK I promise. :lol: The original poster was asking a direct question about why FRAM had negative publicity. Refer to post #1 senor, and put the crack pipe down.

 

OIL FILTERS EXPOSED! - Fram

 

Fram es caca. Pay more pesos.

 

Mthinks the Fram story got started when one of the Korean made filters plugged up on a racebike and it spit an engine a few years back. At the prices wanted for OEM shit which BTW says OEM but is really not in most cases. Honda has thier own filter factory? LOL!

Been running one of these for about ten years on the mach 1 91.. Original cost at the time was a little over a yard..

Custom Oil Filters - Reusable Oil Filters - Cleanable Oil Filters - Green Oil Filters

 

Well damn, now I have to wonder who's came first, Scotts, PC Racing (I have), and this K&P Engineering all look nearly identical, who stole who's patent here?!?!?!?!?!?

 

Most reusable filtes look alike and all are about the same price so your guess is as good as any MC.

 

About PC racing. An oxymoron at best.

Scotts is a distributor. They sell things. On the instructions from Scotts there is a small logo from K&P. These oufts do things like that to further confuse the easily confused.

 

STOP questioning the basic principles of American capitalism, ya commie queer !!:crazy:

 

Purolator usually makes AWESOME filters.

Check out this filter comparison.

Oil Filters Revealed - MiniMopar Resources

I looked closely at the link in fieldsanitation's post. Looks like Viffer Rider has a great argument for the HiFlo's, but where can you get them for $5-$6?

The site shows the Purolator motorcycle filter to be narrower but have WAY more pleats than an OEM. Although it might not flow quite as high as the Honda OEM, it still looks like a GREAT filter with more surface area than the "highly regarded" Amsoil filters.

Looks to me like the Purolator is a winner!! It runs $9 from Amazon with free shipping. Just placed my order.

edit - DAMMIT! I continued doing some reading/research and came across this.
http://calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Filters.html :doh:


Soooooo ......... I cancelled my order of the Purolator ML16817.

I then ordered the PL14612 PureONE filter .... for $7 .... with free shipping ...... WOOHOO!!!! :funky:

Jose

 

yeah... on that site Dahose just mentioned he talked about the lasercut/stainless steel filters:

 

I got a stash of OEM honda filtes for my viffer (no-it dont have a name, for that matter, dont know the sex of it either-this little sniglent is fer the BB one ; ) ) have called it BLACKIE though, am a I racist?

Sorry for the rambling, just giving a window into the history here. Honda changed their oem filter to fit all their bikes, the one I used to use got superceded by something a little shorter. So, the current filters are maybe 5% shorter. Got a whole stock-pile of them and use them on my viffer. For my Kawasaki, I go to the dealer and get specific filters for that bike. They are the same size as the Honda filter and I have had friends tell me that I should use a Honda filter on my Kawasaki. Do I? NO...I guess it comes down to peace of mind and maybe superstition. I will walk under a ladder and open an umbreller in the house. ; )

I use Motorcraft filters in my Ford and use Frams in my fathers Ford as well as using Fram filters in my Jeep...sign off note, When I first got my gen 3 bike it had some longish filter on that had trouble clearing the fairing bracketry. Cheers

 

The reference to the laser cut filter is true only if one is using the old style type with 4 .00138 holes. Those were discontinued years ago. The fix for that in the old days was to drill more holes with a hole saw. Fixed that shit in a hurry.

How does one check for those holes being plugged after a douche in kerosene or other aromatiic solvent of choice or Gunk or WTF even dishwashing detergent? Ya hold the darn thing up to a light. Even the sun works up here if it ain't raining..

Anybody care to post the current tab for the dealer/stealer retail price for a januwine Honda Filter?