86 VFR700F Starter Clutch

Does anyone know where I can buy a good used starter clutch for a 86 VFR700F, I have replaced the springs, weights, and other pieces in the starter clutch and it continues to not engage. I know I cannot buy a new one, does anyone know where I can buy a good used one to just replace the one I have, Spring is coming and I want to get this this running!!!!!

 

look it up and see if it matches the 87 vfr700f2, if it does, pm me an offer on mine!

I bought a new one with it new springs and rollers.

The new one didn't work (timing problem), but with the new rollers and springs my old one did.

 

I have an 86 VFR700F as well with a shot starter clutch (one of the rollers destroyed itself) ... if someone would be willing to part with one, I'd appreciate it a lot!

I think (not sure) that there was a difference in the timing (magnetic pickup notches) on the starter clutch on the 86/87/F/FII so if you (koorbloh) wouldn't mind posting a picture of the top and bottom of the big bit with the three internal recessed areas (not the one with the writing on it) I could probably tell you if its the same.

 

I can take a pic of the one that didn't work fairly easily because it's sitting outside of the bike.

the one that did work is back inside the bike. I'll pull it on out this weekend and get some pics of both up for you doods.

 

I've attached pictures of the important part of the clutch (from an 86 VFR700F).

The flat/cylindrical part with the T1F etc. writing and marks is the same for both models (F/FII), it's this wheel that differs.

The particular things the pickup measures are basically the angular difference between the protruding pin on the part, and the two ridges on the outside of the part.

Still looking for one (this is my worn one, if you look at the top you can see some of the damage)

 

that looks like the one that got put back into my bike (I think....)

I'll take some time and crack the case again and look.

 

pics coming, I've got that part you need and it was cranking my engine a couple days ago.

it came with the bike, and worked if it was warm enough. if it wasn't warm enough, it just spun. I bought a new clutch, rollers and springs. The new clutch was wrong (timing) so, I put the old clutch in, with the new rollers and springs, it worked.

I also have another clutch that doesn't match, which is brand new, and also for sale.

First person to give me a reasonable offer gets choice of full starter clutch assembly, with the new rollers and springs and your choice of clutch and the

Old rollers and springs are available too (springs worn, rollers don't appear to be), the other clutch is too.

 

parts included in lot 1:
3, 14, 5, 15, 7, 6, 4, 17, 19

parts included in lot 2:
5, 6, 15

pics can be seen here:
http://www.flickr.com/gp/25043956@N06/wT28rp

 

Oops...

So, guess what I just discovered. I didn't tighten down the three bolts enough, so they all worked themselves free while it was running, and managed to crack (!) part 5 in that fiche above. .... which means that I'm looking for another one .... maybe it's time to get something newer (that part isn't for sale through parts dealers AFAIK.)

Thankfully I was working on it anyway when it happened, and heard the scraping as I brought the bike vertical. It probably only had 10 rotations or so with them doing that as I killed it immediately. Didn't see any scuffs on the inside of the case.

 

And here's pictures. I'm going to try and repair it, not by gluing the crack back together but by jamming some epoxy in the space between the (slightly bent) ring and the broken big metal bit to hold it together.

And surprisingly, the screwdriver+ziptie combo works pretty darn well, it's even self locking due to the angle it's in at!

Edit: note, this doesn't mean I'm not looking for a replacement part, cracked metal is cracked metal, no ways around that.

 

And ... *drumroll* it's back together and working fine (knock, knock.) I even carefully followed the manual's torquing specifications.

After I had left it sitting for almost 2 months (work related travel), I had hard starting and bogging on idle ... sound familiar?

Anyway turns out the suspect cylinder (FL) had a rock inside the carb bowl leading to a very unmetered fuel flow. This I also suspect now for damaging both of these starter clutches as it would actually hydrolock the cylinder if I left it sitting for a while...!