translate my VINs

You seem like such a resource that I'm going to try U anyway...
I'm talking to a guy about his Pile of Honda Parts (easy-nonVFR as far as I know). and he has 2 frames. How do I get the model/ year from the No. (looked @ vfrpedia). I know it's digits 4-8 for model and 10 for year but this is what I've got:
1HFSC120EXA109124
-digits extracted
mod.--SC120
yr. --X

1HFSC1709EA002198
-digits extracted
mod.--SC170
yr.--E

VFRpedia doesn't seem to cover these
AND guess carfax isn't for motorcycles, says no. too short

 

1HF - HONDA, Motorcycle, Manufactured in USA
SC120/SC170 - Model
Next numeric character is a "check digit" (E/9)
X year = 1999
E year = 1984

I am guessing that these are Shadow frames, but I could be wrong.

 

PS: I was able to run the 2nd one on Motoverse and it came back as a 84 VF1100S

Anyone have tips for getting same info on the top VIN?
Anyone been able to get state patrol to run a VIN without physically taking it in?

 

PS: I was able to run the 2nd one on Motoverse and it came back as a 84 VF1100S

Anyone have tips for getting same info on the top VIN?
Anyone been able to get state patrol to run a VIN without physically taking it in?

 

PS: I was able to run the 2nd one on Motoverse and it came back as a 84 VF1100S

Anyone have tips for getting same info on the top VIN?
Anyone been able to get state patrol to run a VIN without physically taking it in?

 

I'd double check the other one - I was surprised that these were frames that were 15 years apart...