Cleaner/Wax embedded in paint --HELP

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  1. derstuka

    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    Ok folks, the other day, I picked up some Maxima "Spray & Shine with Carnuba" wax at the bike shop. It advertises that it "cleans, polishes, protects paint, chrome, plastic" and the usual BS. Ok, I put some on the other day (after washing it) wiped it off well, and rode it, and later covered it. So I take the cover off the bike, and on the front fairing the "Spray and Shine" seems to have embebbed/absorbed (pick your term) into the paint. Apparently, some was stuck in the windshield crevice, and seeped out later on onto the fairing. I washed the bike, and tried shrubbing fairly hard, but no dice. It looks to be "in" the paint. I would have taken a pic, but I don't think you will be able to see it in a photo...only with the naked eye.

    I probably answered my own question here, but am I SOL (sh*t out of luck) or what? Would I need to resort to trying a buffer with rubbing compound followed by polishing compound?? :smash:
     
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  2. Chicken Little

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    Wow, that sucks. I have had some luck with Mother's paint cleaner. I am wondering if a TEST dab of WD40 would lift a little of it. Everything had a petroleum base, maybe the WD40 will cut it. I dunno...
    Proceed with caution and riding really fast can blur paint imperfections as you whiz by somebody!
     


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    D,
    You might try one of the clay bar cleaners. I've seen some pretty good results on a silver paint job that had some light discoloration. You could also try some of the detailer sites and do a search.

    From Detailcity
    Another method to removing bugs is using Auto Detailing Clay. Originally designed to remove paint overspray, detailing clay has quickly become a favorite detailer's tool for removing surface contamination including bugs, tar, brake dust, fallout and the before mentioned overspray. Detailer's clay is easy to use. You simply spray the area to be clayed with a good clay lubricant and gently rub the clay bar back and forth across the wet surface. Reshape the clay often to reveal clean clay as you work. Before you know it, you have a bug free surface. Please note that clay does remove wax and most sealants so you will need to apply a new coat of protection.

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    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    Thanks guys...I've give your suggestions a try. I forgot about the clay bar...have ponder that one.
     


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    I WAS a skeptic of clay bar .. untill i used it on a black 02 Monte SS... that stuff if used as directed works wonders
     


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    The claybar works well on surface defects, those above the surface of the paint but I wonder if it would really help with this if it is as you said Derstuka, absorbed into the paint. If it is truly absorbed into the plastic, the only think that might work is to cut it down with a buffer and rubbing compound, but I think I might try that on a some other piece of plastic first.

    I would try the WD40 approach first. I've seen that stuff take out a number of stains on my cars, quads, mountain bikes and such.
     


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    I'd likely just try a solvent to lift the wax... like acetone. then re-wax with a polymer wax without the carnuba... it will last longer, but not be quite as shiny.

    - Paul
     


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    I agree with Nozzle, but I perfer lacquer thinner. It's great cleaner, it will strip the paint clean, and will need a fresh coat of wax.

    A little will go a long way, so use it sparingly.

    Robert
     


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    I was hesitant to suggest it, but I use paint thinner to clean off problematic stuff, and immediately apply some "Protect All" spray cleaner/wax to remove whatever residue is left. I've never tried it on bodywork, per se, just painted frame, wheels, etc.
     


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    OK, this will sound crazy but I've been told by a couple of people that it truly does work.

    If wax gets down in textured material, as in textured plastic molding, the best thing to use to get it out is peanut butter. Honest. No fooling.

    I haven't tried it myself, and I don't know exactly what to use to get the peanut butter out, but it was told to me as the honest truth.
     


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    I'm gonna have to try that on the black dash? panel beside my tank. I have had a cloudy color in it for over a year from wax. I tried a toothbrush but couldn't seem to get it out...
     


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    Stuka -

    If this product is anything like the Mother's "Showtime" quick wax spray stuff, the only thing that will take it off/remove the haze is another application.

    This time use VERY little applied first to the rag.

    I would try this before using laquer thinner, WD40, or firing up the buffer.

    I had the same problem on a black car after using the clay bar system (which includes the "Showtime" product as lubricant - the product seeped into a crevice , and the frist time the car was drive, it belw all over the side. Wouldn't go away with wash/wax, and the only thing to get it to go away was another application of the spray, but this time applied to the rag, and rubbed on, wiped down with cotton cloth.
     


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    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    Thanks VT (and everybody else). I appreciate your help. I am gonna try doing as you suggest tonight VT, then I will go pick up an economy size jar of Jiffy peanut butter if that doesn't work!
     


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    And let that be a lesson to you, if it's not Honda Polish it's crap!
     


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    Fixed:
    For those of you who remember the "Scottish Soccer Hooligans" SNL skits...:wink:
     


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    if that peanut butter doesn't do it, try some Charmin roll tissue.... but use a sanding block so it doesn't look bad. :wink:

    After all the commotion I am editing my post. I find it hard to believe that some folks found my prior post abrasive and cutting. Hopefully my fixing the prior post of "60 grit garnet sandpaper" with the replaced "Charmin roll tissue" is soothing for your sore backsides. but please... don't squeeze the charmin into your crack to get stuff out of there that may have seeped in accidently when you were waxing
     
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    LOL!:biggrin:

    I just pray some newbie never takes this advice Paul.

    Thanks for the laugh this Friday morning:smile:

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    And if nothing else, you can have an expensive snack. There may be some fiber value in plastic, and it would probably polish teeth and be self-flossing! :biggrin:

    Good luck, StukaMeister. Let us all know what works.

    "Nothing gets clean without something else getting dirty".
     


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    your posts should come with a disclaimer for n00bs. maybe we should put a little asterisk at the bottom and a legal statement.

    <center>Disclaimer</center> Please note: VFRworld.com is not affiliated in any way with Nozzle, Inc. The words Honda and VF/VFR are registered trademarks and/or names owned by Honda Motor Company, Inc. and are used on this Internet Website as reference only. This is an unofficial site and is solely for the enjoyment and use of everyone. Any reproduction or use of any of the content of this site is strictly encouraged. If that's not good enough and you still want to sue me - Go ahead! I have no money. All I have is my Viffer, and you will have to take that over my cold dead body!
     


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    Thanks Noz. I tried your advice, and the wax residue is gone, but now I can see thru a large hole in my fairing. Maybe I didn't follow your advice correctly. :confused:

    I am gonna try again on other parts of the bike. thanks again!
     


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