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DOT & Snell (American) helmet testing standards

Discussion in 'Gear & Accessories' started by derstuka, Jan 11, 2008.

  1. KC-10 FE

    KC-10 FE New Member

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    Not that I need to mention it but...

    As always with helmets (& any other gear for that matter), it's great if has an alphabet of letters stickered on it only if it fits you. I'll say that again, buy the helmet that fits you best, regardless of which standard it meets.

    What's a better choice:
    1) A SNELL helmet that fits you like a glove?
    2) An EEC helmet that is "safer" but it doesn't fit you as well?

    There is probably that ONE helmet out there for everyone. You know, the one that fits better than all others. For me, it's the Arai RX7. I 10000% agree the SNELL rating is unecessary & possiblity a drawback but the RX7 fits my sputnick better than ANY helmet I've ever tried on so that's what I'm sticking with, SNELL or not. In my opinion, the best helmets commonly available are Suomy. If they fit me, that's what I'd be wearing.

    KC-10 FE out...
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  2. Faith7

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    I thought Snell was the helmet for chicken strip riders (slow) that"s why I bought one.
     


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  3. powerslave

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    IMHO the fact that you all seem to be wearing a helmet(of any quality or price point) is the thing that makes me the happiest.
    We are required by law here to wear helmets,and I have only once noticed a sportbike rider without one.
    I'd say that about 10% of the H-D riders around here dont wear a helmet at all,but i guess if you can afford the bike,you can afford the fines.(Just the cost of biz.when looking cool is more important than life itself,I guess).
    I don't know what the law is for each of you in your particular state,but please wear your helmet wether required by law or not.
    When I cruise stateside to North Dakota I notice many many riders with exposed noggins.
    I guess my point is putting on any lid of at least DOT quality is 99.999% of the battle.Wether it is DOT SNELL or whatever else, as long as it is properly fitted, is the other .001% of the equasion.
    Just my $.02...Cheers!
     


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  4. pontiacformula99

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    ...and most of the ones you see with a helmet aren't even legal DOT's most shops around where I live will give you the DOT sticker for the helmet when you buy it. They keep the sticker behind the counter... I guess HD's don't have wrecks. They must think their all Chuck Norris. I you don't know what I'm talking about then go to [DLMURL]http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com[/DLMURL] and than you'll understand...:biggrin:
     


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    Interestingly enough, I just got my new Chapparal big-book catalog. They are now featuring helmets by a manufacturer "Sparx" that are DOT and ECE approved, and come with a 5 year warranty. And the pricing is from about $110 - $160. Some features and graphics too.
     


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  6. Ghost_Rider

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    I hope that SNELL learned their lesson, however, since they still have not admitted guilt (probably thru legal advice) I am not for sure. I for one I am glad that Motorcyclist Mag had the balls to stand up to them. They got a lot of heat for that, even losing advertisements. I look at them like a whistle blower that takes the heat, and gets called a liar at first, to be vindicated later.
     


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    I believe that one of their editors also lost his job as an indirect result, due to loss of advertising from a couple of the big helmet companies.
     


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    I believe it. It makes me happy to see a major magazine stand up to basically their bread and butter in the name of safety.
     


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  9. derstuka

    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    Bastages still never owned up to it even though they "quietly" adjusted their standards after.

    From wikipedia:

    In 2005, Motorcyclist magazine wrote an in-depth article discussing helmet testing and safety.[2] The article included criticism of Snell Memorial Foundation standards by prominent head injury and helmet design experts, including Dr. Harry Hurt, author of the Hurt Report, who described the Snell standards as "a little bit excessive," and Dr. Jim Newman, former head of Snell Memorial Foundation, who characterized the then-current Snell Memorial Foundation standard as a "marketing gimmick." The article reported that a softer absorption material would transfer less g-force to the head in the most common motorcycle accidents than the stiffer absorption material required in Snell-certified helmets.[3] Snell Memorial Foundation released a technical critique and rebuttal to the article, available at their Web site, which asserts that there are no viable data to indicate that a softer liner or a softer shell could result in less severe head injuries.[4] In September 2009, New York Times published a follow-up article which cited the 2005 Motorcyclist article; SMF rebutted it as well.[5] Snell Memorial Foundation's 2010 standard for motorcycle helmets now conforms to one of the magazine's criticisms, that a larger head will also be a heavier head.
     


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