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  1. Lgn001

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    Hello, All.

    Without boring everyone to death with all the details, I finally bought a new VFR (anniversary edition). It only took me 15 years to get around to it...

    All in all, a nice bike. The VTEC is a bit bizarre in the transition stage, and the jury is still out on the stock suspension, but all in all, I like it.

    Anyway, I removed the lower fairings for the first oil/filter change, and had a real struggle removing them due to the upper corners being held in place by the captive rubber grommets that I could not get to to push out of the recessed holes (I could not see them; I figured out what the problem was after I got the fairings off). My concern is that the grommets will not pull back through the hole when the retaining screw is tightened. I sprayed the grommets with "Son of a Gun" silicone, and tightened/loosened the screws a few times, but I can not figure out a clever way to make sure that they are in position since they are not visible (or whether or not to worry about it too terribly much).

    Anybody else have this problem?

    Thx!
     


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    These rubber grommets are called "well nuts" and create a ridge on the back side to hold the grommet in place when the screw is screwed into them the first time. They are reuseable, but if one pops out and you have a hard time getting it back in, you can buy replacements that look like a threaded rubber cylinder with a thin rubber flange on just one end. You just slip them into place with the flange end on the outside, put the body panel over it, thread in the body fastener, and this will cause the back side of the well nut to bulge out, keeping it in place for future use.
     


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    Thanks for the info. I learn something new every day...

    I was not very clear in my description. The well nuts stayed in place on their brackets. The lower fairings were hard to remove because the Honda well nuts have an upper flange that pokes up through the fairing hole and expands, which captures it into position. My concern was getting it to poke back through the fairing hole and expand back into the OEM location, since it cannot be seen or manipulated once the fairing is in position. It probably isn't an issue, but I lose sleep over things like this.
     


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    can you take a picture? I was thinking you meant the rubber grommets that the fairing screws (the allen head ones) screw into. If so, I learned the trick to getting those back into the fairing when I bought a new side panel. if you are talking about the plastic fairing clips, there is a little bit of a trick to them also. tell me which (or show me) and I'll see if I can help.
     


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    The fairings are back on, so I can't get a picture. The well nuts I am concerned with are the ones that the allen head screws go into. They are visible from the top of the bike, closest to the instrument panel. When I had the fairings off, I took a close look at them, and also the fairing. It appears that the width of the well nut upper flange is intended to go through the fairing hole and expand around the top of it. The fairing itself has a slight recess to accomodate the well nut flange.

    You're right. A picture would be so much easier. Next oil change, I'll make sure to take some. Thx!
     


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    I'm pretty sure I know what you are talking about now and I happen to have recently taken some pics because I thought someone else might have trouble with those. I destroyed one trying to figure it out, but now I think I have it as I had to do every one on the left fairing and the front fairing. I'll come back and edit this message as soon as I find where I put those pics.

    ok. I'm back with pics now... In the first pic, you can see I just put a little of the rubber edge through the hole....

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    Then, using my finger as much as possible, I rubbed across the edge of it where it was coming through the plastic while applying a fair amount of pressure from the back so it wouldn't fall back out. If you just keep kind of flipping it with your finger or fingernail, it starts coming through a little at a time.

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    And voila! back to normal...

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    I destroyed one of them trying to use a screwdriver before I figured out how to do it so now I'm actually missing one but I removed one from a less conspicuous part of the fairing and moved it to take the place and everything seems to be workin just fine. Hope this helps.

     
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    bump - is that what you were talking about?
     


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    Thanks for the info and pictures. That's KIND of what I am talking about, except the ones I am concerned with are attached to the bracket that stays on the bike. You cannot get to them once the fairing is back on. It would probably be best if I take pictures the next oil change. Could be that the 2007 fairing attachments are completely different. Thanks again, I really appreciate it!
     


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    yeah some of mine were attached to the metal also but it was the same principle, just the pictures were easier to get on the plastic piece. more contrast, etc... I have never taken fairings off on a 6g so don't know if they attach the same.
     


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