My 1986 VF500F revival

Discussion in '1st & 2nd Generation 1983-1989' started by jstehman, Feb 2, 2021.

  1. jstehman

    jstehman New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    43
    I'm not sure if the shock has anything to do with it, but the front feels a little wonky. It rides straight, just kinda funky on turns.

    Maybe I'm just not used to it yet? And the clutch engagement is a bit far out, need to get used to having some revs to take off

    Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  2. sixdog

    sixdog Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,943
    Likes Received:
    880
    Trophy Points:
    128
    Location:
    So California
    Map
    Hmmm
    Double check all bolts up front, fork oil and maybe tire is not worn funny


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  3. Totaled TL

    Totaled TL New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2015
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Louisville, KY
    Map
    My clutch is like that. Just got some new plates to install.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  4. jstehman

    jstehman New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Tires are new.

    Maybe the forks are tweaked

    Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  5. sixdog

    sixdog Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,943
    Likes Received:
    880
    Trophy Points:
    128
    Location:
    So California
    Map
    Let’s see if the shock cures the issue


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
    jstehman likes this.
  6. jstehman

    jstehman New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Well, the clutch has about zero friction zone..

    About the last 1/8" of travel is the zone.

    Bleeds just fine. Better MC. No pitting.

    I did not put a new seal in the SC.. one is on the way but in the meantime I disassembled it to clean . I was getting little black particles while I was bleeding the system

    Got it fully bled. Lever feels solid except for like the first smidgen of movement, I can hear the SC make a squish sound.

    Took it apart again to check the action of the piston. Feels like it gets a bit sticky returning with manual compression of the piston in the bore .

    Wiped the inside of the bore with some red scotchbrite pad to knock down the brown..feels smooth to the touch now but still feels like it is sticking

    Not sure if I should be on the lookout for a better condition SC before I install the new seal.

    Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  7. Totaled TL

    Totaled TL New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2015
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Louisville, KY
    Map
    What's 'better MC'?
    Just installed new friction plates in mine today. Had very short friction zone also. It's better but not really as good as I thought it might improve it. Old ones were not burnt. Clutch was not slipping. I think it's somewhat the nature of these bikes to have short friction zones.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  8. jstehman

    jstehman New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    43
    My old.MC had pitting in the bore. The engagement was random.

    At least now it is consistent. Just at the Very End of the lever travel

    Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  9. Captain 80s

    Captain 80s Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2009
    Messages:
    7,489
    Likes Received:
    3,563
    Trophy Points:
    158
    I personally wouldn't start chasing too many things until you get that ass end where it should be with a new shock. The Hagon is very good. For the same money I'm on a YSS. I just can't argue with how many times they have personally impressed me. Plus I think they look the Honda VF/VFR part better.

    The eBay seller biketyresuk is the one to buy from imo, even if it is a few bucks more. They are the U.K. R&D for YSS (Firefox Racing I think). If they say they have inventory, they do. And they process their orders in a timely manner. I have always been pleasantly surprised how fast my shocks (6 now) have arrived.

    Verify the stock length and make sure the part number (which decodes the length) jives with what you want. I just grabbed a stock shock (that is not frozen) to take to work and verify the length with my height gage and indicator.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
    sixdog and jstehman like this.
  10. Captain 80s

    Captain 80s Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2009
    Messages:
    7,489
    Likes Received:
    3,563
    Trophy Points:
    158
    The stock shock is ~345 mm

    PXL_20240306_141329834[1].jpg

    It appears that particular model YSS is ride height adjustable (335 - 345), so I would take advantage of that and get at least to the stock length. You will effectively gain a little ride height because the bike will actually be properly sprung now. And if you don't like it, you can go down from there. But that's where I would start.

    The bike can take quite a big change to the chassis geometry / attitude. My race bike with a Fox has the rear quite high and the forks slid up a good amount. I don't have steering damper and never had a hint of head shake or nervousness. The thing RAILED.
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2024


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
    AceSW20, Totaled TL and jstehman like this.
  11. jstehman

    jstehman New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    43
    I rebuilt the clutch slave with K&L kit.

    The seal that came out was a bit shrunken and contracted.. and the spring seemed to be slightly more compressed than the replacement.

    Driveway test says I have more friction zone.

    Hopefully take a road test tomorrow

    Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
    Bazza likes this.
  12. jstehman

    jstehman New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Well, test drive went ok.

    I feel like the friction zone is still pretty far out on the lever, but I am able to better modulate it. Must be how this machine is. Can't really take off from 1500rpm like with the 750 she needs a little revs.


    And the xush drive "rubbers" are hard as rocks. Wonder if I can put those in the rubber softener solution and get them to swell a bit

    I must have done something to anger the forks, because the left front caliper with the Trac piston, is just flopping into the Trac mechanism with zero resistance. So the Trac is needing rebuilt. Probably.

    Forks gotta come off anyway for fluid change/ cleaning so I should just go ahead and order the Trac stuff if it's still available.

    Oh and the horn is hitting the front cowling underneath.. it is supposed to be tucked up under right? Maybe the bottom of the fairing stay is bent upward on one side a little.

    Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  13. bmart

    bmart Insider

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2011
    Messages:
    840
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    Map
    On many of my other Hondas, the horn can physically mount either way...but there's one right way. Maybe consult the manual?
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  14. jstehman

    jstehman New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    43
    I feel like it needs to be tucked under.

    One of the lower mounting legs on my fairing stay is definitely bent upwards slightly. Probably causing the interference

    Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  15. squirrelman

    squirrelman Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2006
    Messages:
    10,185
    Likes Received:
    877
    Trophy Points:
    128
    Location:
    Buffalo, NY
    Map
    trac might be ok, that failure seldom or never mentioned here before. there is a metal sleeve that might get lost that would take up some clearance, and pushing in the trac piston isnt easy, and it barely moves.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  16. Totaled TL

    Totaled TL New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2015
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Louisville, KY
    Map
    You do not have to remove the fork legs to repl. the fluid, at least on an '86. Drain bolts.
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  17. jstehman

    jstehman New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Yeah I know. I'll try that first but if it's grey and metallic that comes out, I'm taking the forks off

    Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  18. jstehman

    jstehman New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    43
    The sleeve is there. Unless there is a bushing that fits over that sleeve, the eye that that fits in is Way bigger than the sleeve, or the Trac piston is supposed to be pushing backwards on the caliper bracket. Right now I have 4mm of slop between the caliper bracket and the piston.

    And I don't see the parts breakdown for that bracket in the parts fiche?

    NM I found it. I have a small metal sleeve, but am missing this 51536-MB2-000

    No that's the top one.. I don't understand what's going on unless the piston is just stuck in


    Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2024


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  19. Totaled TL

    Totaled TL New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2015
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Louisville, KY
    Map


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
  20. jstehman

    jstehman New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    43


    Because phone app doesn't like me uploading pics, sorry

    Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk
     


    This site may contain affiliate links for which VFRworld may be compensated
Related Topics

Share This Page