VFR 800 6gen - rough engine under 5500rpm

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    Hi
    - I'm looking for help with my VFR 800 VTEC 2002, 80,000 km, I've owned it for 3 months. I'm looking for advice.

    My problem is how rough and "unhappy" my engine runs from 3000 to 5500 rpm. I can hear it especially when I open the throttle. and I feel like I'm riding a big single cylinder. I feel the problem especially at high gears.

    The engine starts nicely, idles well, runs great above 5500rpm, VTEC works.

    I tried disconnecting the PAIR system, it partly improved the engine performance.

    Has anyone encountered such a problem?

    Thanks for any advice.
     


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    Have you tried balancing the starter valves? What condition are the spark plugs?
     


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    - the current spark plugs are not new, but the gap is fine, dark brown, they look good..
    - at the moment I haven't tried to balance the starter valves, I'm waiting for a new vacuum hose, and I want to replace them
     


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    Has it been running on old fuel - e.g. after long storage?
     
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    Fit new NGK plugs then reassess
     


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    - i bought this motorcycle in the spring, as "non-runer"
    - it have electric isues, burn positiv wire, burn fuse box, burn starter solenoid conector, front brake issues, clutch master cylinder is leakink..., tyres, frort fork seals
    - i fix all that, and drove 1500 km on his motorcycle
    - all is ok, only one thing bothers me, that rough engin charakter pod 5000..
    - i never ride VFR before, i drive in city - 50kmh, for smooth engine i need have 3 gear and 4500rpm... and that feels a lot to me...
    - my other bike, GSX 1400, in city i ride in 6 gear and 1500rpm, and engine accelerete beautifly
    - what engine revs do you drive in the city???
     


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    I have no experience with the fuel injection system so my knowledge is rudimentary at best but "electrical issues" may have damaged a sensor (pressure, temperature, throttle position) or the controller. The manual describes a way to interpret signals from the "FI" dashboard control light. The manual also describes a "Variable Air Intake" system which activates around 5500 rpm. Observing the "FI" lamp would be a good place to start.

    You seem to be from Slovakia where there are some elevation differences. If the issue is related to a malfunction of e.g. the pressure (MAP) sensor the issue may also depend some on where you are (heightwise).

    VFR driveability: I have an older model. I consider it very smooth also for use in city from around 2500 rpm depending some on the traffic.
     


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    Did you replace the air filter? If not You could test how she runs without.
     


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    - I have an old air filter, I cleaned it with a air compressor after buy
    - I did an experiment, I removed the air filter, I feel that the engine worked a little better when accelerating from low revs (3000), but it was not a significant change.
    - in the spring I took out the snorkel, Pair valve delete and did make "flapper mod" - that was a noticeable change for the better

    - I have no FI errors
    - in service manual, page 5-14 to 16 i some MAP testing procedures, i will try them
     


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    If I were you I would take this advise as well. Theoretically, if the MAP sensor was dead, the FI light would tell if you do a diagnostics.
     


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    another question:
    - in manual 9-23, I found a "primary drive gear" with three springs, which is connected between the crankshaft and the clutch, its purpose is to dampen the engine pulse? it could be a source problem?
     

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    Will have no effect on your problem. Springs and split gears are to minimize gear mesh backlash.
     


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    Hello, I added an additive to the gasoline to clean the injection nozzles, after driving another 1000 km, the engine is finally running nicely.

    Thanks for help.
     


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