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Discussion in 'Anything Goes' started by Ghost_Rider, Apr 24, 2012.

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  1. NorcalBoy

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    I had no idea you had such high level ties to the GRU, KGB, NRA, and the GOP. They all seemed to love the same thing.
     


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    It's 2020, let folks working 3 jobs and still have to choose between rent, medication to stay alive or eating a meal,
    let banks force poor people out of their homes,
    let sick people die for lack of access to healthcare.
    But the idea that billionaires can pay more in taxes, just be a little less rich,
    not poor, not struggling, just a little less rich,
    is considered insane, socialist or communist.

     


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    what if we tried to solve the core problems you listed in the beginning of your post? Is it possible that taxing more might be a bandaid on a symptom instead of solving a problem.

    Many rentals are held by small business, not the “evil” big banks. I sold my one property Friday partially due to increased meddling by the government in the landlord/tenant business relationship. If a tenant couldn’t pay and I couldn’t evict, it would ruin my family financially.

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    Are you a billionaire?

    Increase meddling by the government? can you specify?

    Would you rather forgive few months rent or just have your rental properties empty & try to find new tenants?

    Do you think you would find new tenants for your rentals during COVID?

    WED was Veteran's Day: really shows how much they really care about military service members, military families.
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    ya, I’m a billionaire that hangs out in motorcycle forums :Crazy:


    Your others are all very valid questions any business person would ask themselves. So why are federal and state level governments placing mandates on the property owners?

    My sale is one less rental on the market. If more owners feel, as I did, that the risk is too high and sell, what will the lack of competition do to the rental market?
     


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    trump was the WORST prez since nixxxon !
     


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    Tricky Dickie was a choir boy in comparison. It is jus that the bar for prosecuting has been raised substantially since he roamed the surface of the USA.
     


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    I did specify "billionaires" in my previous post.

    What specific mandates do you refer?

    How many more property owners have you spoken with that had to sell their rental properties and feels the same as you?

    Do you feel there is a lack of competition in your rental market?
     
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    sorry, but i've lost all respect for trump supporters, believing his con man lies and tolerating his overwhelming ego and habitual hyper-narcissism, the personality of a thirld-world dictator. he's fuckin NUTS ! :eek:

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    eviction bans put in place by Trump and the governor of CO.

    I did not have to sell, I chose to. I haven’t spoken to others who’ve sold but there are numerous articles written on the challenges faced by both sides.

    your original rant was about rising prices and raising taxes. Isn’t it competition and demand that drive prices one direction or another?
     


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    Right back at you for not recognizing that he's still the lesser of evils... :rolleyes:
     


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    Yep, the absolute crap, BS, and outright crimes that both sides (especially the left!) gets away with these days is unfuc&ingbelievable!!!
     


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    The Liberals here, especially Trudeau are so elitists they refuse to abide by their own codes of ethics and take hand outs form business for personal gain often. But Conservative governments of the past have been almost as bad, especially the Mulroney Conservatives from a couple decades back, the Regan Era. We don't know about the New Democratic Party because they have never formed a government federally yet. But I am sure they will be as bad.

    Our federal politicians are so entitled. The hope is though, they will get really fat at the public trough and die of a coronary early in life and will collect their fat pensions for far less time than those of us who pay into our pension plans.
     
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    Does eviction ban include rent forgiveness or just accumulative over the eviction ban period? can you give the specifics?

    Can you provide those articles that you refer? or more details why you think it's more lucrative to sell?

    My original post was about the social justice in economy, amount of taxes paid per income comparison of the poor vs billionaires,
    our current Federal guidelines in determining poverty & above poverty.

    When poor people have to pay 12-25% of their total income to taxes and billionaires getting away with paying $750 a year; that's not social justice.
     


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    And there it is, right on schedule.

    Including the term "Social Justice" always strengthens your straw-man argument against your society, doesn't it?

    There is no such thing as "Social Justice" in the modern world. And there never has been. There is absolutely no evidence (throughout the entire 5,000 year long record of "written human history") of any civilization (current or prior) ever achieving anything close to "Social Justice"

    "Social Justice" has never been achieved under any of the governmental/cultural/societal systems we've tried. Not even once. None of humanity's attempts at running a civilization-sized society has ever resulted in "Social Justice". Not Communism, not Socialism, not Fascism, not monarchy, not Democracy and not Constitutional Federal Republic.

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    I always thought Pol Pot had the right idea.
     


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    And just because there never was social justice, does that mean we should not try to strive for it?

    Is it not Liberty & Justice for ALL?
     


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    You ask, "Is it not?"

    "Liberty & Justice for all" = yes, definitely (we've been working on it here in our Constitutional Federal Republic for a few hundred years)

    "Liberty & Social Justice for all" = not a thing (as in: apparently not a thing you can define without being racist and calling for the end of America)

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    obviously, rush and right-wing radio+fox network have stolen sam's brain. :nelson: progressive ideas seem threatening to his diseased mind. :eek:
     


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    Liberty & Justice for ALL = not a thing, yet we've been working on it.. but Liberty & Social Justice is unobtainable?
     


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