Question about fairing fasteners

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  1. macscuddle

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    I noticed today that 2 of the black fairing bolts are a different length than all the others, a little shorter. All the black ones I have pulled are same diameter.

    Problem is, can't remember which holes these were in and shop manual is not clear. I don't think it probably matters, but now I'm curious.

    They would have come from under cowls, radiator grille, inner lower panel, inner upper panel, or middle cowls. I'm sure it's not under cowls...just listing everything I removed.

    Anybody know?

    Honda really needs to work on this crap. I don't see any justification to have more than 1 bolt type and 1 plastic type. Going from memory I think there are 2 different ones in black and in silver, and 3 different poppers. And none of them are much different size or anything. That's just what I've seen so far.
     
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    You don't say what year your bike is. If you search the net for the parts diagram, you will find the fairings and the bolts used to attach to bike. On the parts list, they have the size. Not hard to find, maybe a little of your time.

    Also, Hinda makes them a certain length for a reason. Likely space issues or reach concerns.
     
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    Page after page of replacement fittings and kits even on Amazon.

    Shop for stuff like this. Honda shops will ream you a new one on push rivets. Car stuff is even worse.

    I have a Chevvy. Some of the ABS plastic inserts were missing on a weatherstrip on the driver door. Ten of them.

    Local GM Dealer: four pesos a pop.
    Local Megachain autoparts store: aboot six pesos for four.
    NAPA: Looked in their catalog: aboot five/six pesos for a dozen.

    Same thing.


    GM
     
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    Good idea, Randy. Forgot about those parts diagrams. Yeah, not a fan of taking a wild guess. I went with the positions that had the least apparent rear clearance in the back for the short ones...they all had plenty of reach.
     
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    Randy is the man. These were apparently upper cowl ones that I didn't need to remove anyway. On the whole bike there are 2 in front and 2 in back. Same overall length, diameter as the ones in the middle cowl, but the threads are shorter and the shoulder (whatever) is longer. Believe it or not I had put them back where they belonged...lol

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    You still haven't said what gen your bike is. You can amend your profile so that your bikes year shows up. Then people may be more helpful knowing what you ride. I may have been able to answer specifically off the top of my head if it was a 6 gen. But you can look it up now. Just get the size and go to your local hardware store and buy any new stuff there. Like badbilly said, Honda rapes you for theirs and they are far cheaper elsewhere. Those silly plastic clips are available many places including Bolt Fasteners for seriously, 1/10 the price. Better quality too IMHO.
     
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    This is the 8th gen forum, right? I thought my profile was setup. Will check thanks.

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    The "generation" thing is not a accurate designation of VFRs. A generality at best, taking into account major changes and re-design.
     
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    Crazy what oem plastic clips go for huh, I went through the online parts diagram from a couple sites to find what I was missing in the lower chin faring on the 5th gen, only it was a poor view and general description, no biggie. I grabbed a good one off the bike, went to HD and a couple auto parts thinking there would be something close that would work. Nope. then to find out the secret to how they work, SMH some Japanese engineering had fun with that one. what was wrong with the duz fasteners on the 4th gen? so went to the local dealer here and had em look em up, I really figured they may be type specific knowing Honda, nope, guess they get lost and or broke a lot ,they had a draw full, but at $4 ea. Makes one make sure you pay attention to where they are and fasten correctly so you don't lose them little buggers.
     
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    Be a little wary of parts dudes that most of the time are for some reason trying to impress by telling customers they either have a part or farkle or not. Ask for the catalogs..

    I used to be impressed by the checkout dudes at places like Costco that had a shitload of numbers relating to products memorized. What is left oot is they don't know shit aboot the product most of the time..

    Years back some whizkids from MIT or CalPoly or somesuch "built" a Chevvy from "parts", comparing the cost vs the cost of an assembly line car. We are not talking just a couple of pesos difference here..

    Unless one has to have their bike 100% pristine stock (zzzzz) There are dozens if not hundreds of fastener possibilities on the market that whup the stuffing oot of OEM suppliers.
     
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    The bottom 2 in the front fairing of my 6th gen are eluding me. Anyone come up with a good solution? Not only are they closest to pavement and thrown back shtuff, but must be taken off for every oil change...4 times a year for mine. Thanks!
     
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    If you are speaking of the plastic pins you have to remove and wreck every time, part no. 90683-GAZ-003, get rid of them and replace with push pins where you just push the center pin in to release, and are re-usable. I ditched all my OEM's. They fit 6mm holes, there are 8mm available also. Generic available for less than OEM.... buy packs of 10 from China for like $1.50, but try these, they are better quality and a decent price..
    https://www.cyclemaxohio.com/inc/sdetail/flush_rivets/4102/77079
     
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    I was going to say, someone was bound to chime in with another option but here is what I use, and have used for years now. https://boltmotorcyclehardware.com/...v-utv-sportbike-scooter/products/nylon-rivets It is the M6's that you need. They do fit very snug. They are far better than the OEM in my opinion. Those two on the bottom, that you need to remove every time you change your oil, are really subject to disaster in removing them. I just don't worry much about damaging them and just get the buggers out, the easiest way I can and for the cost of these after market pin type, replace them with new every time I change the oil.
     
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    Another option for those two, since yo can't see them anyway, is a zip toe through the two holes. Can't get cheaper or easier than that. Just get a zip tie that is as close as you can to the size of those two holes.
     
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