Removing PAIR in progress, advice needed.

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  1. VFRIRL

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    I think in Britain they are very strict on bikes and people are being fined for riding when you are not an essential worker etc, they view motorcycling as an unnecessary journey and high risk activity that would put pressure on the nhs critical care that's at full tilt trying to help serious covid cases,
    I can see where riding the bike you are covered up and I wouldn't be near anyone apart from filling the bike up, I seen where a few weeks ago a small Welsh village was very annoyed by the arrival of a group of bikers who turned up and where not caring about social distancing etc, the villagers were doing all they could to protect vulnerable members of their families and communities and then these assholes turn up taking over the local shop etc and acting like pricks, gives biking a very bad name, most British bikers as far as I can tell are doing their bit and staying home, not easy when you've come through a miserable Winter and the lovely Spring weather arrives.
     
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    It seem that a lot of bikers don't understand what social distancing is for. They think its to prevent THEM getting the virus. It's not. Its to prevent them hosting the virus and passing it on to 10 other people who then pass it on to 10 other people and their families. A full face helmet is NOT a substitute for a face mask because it does not have a filter. You can pass on the virus and never get the symptoms.
    A great deal is made of FREEDOM. Freedom to not wear protective gear. Freedom to ignore the law. What about responsibility?
     
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    I mentioned that this is not a thread about virus and hoped that people can post just technical stuff but ...

    When big boys were selling their stocks at sky high end of last year, when event 201 had taken place, I did exactly the same, sold most of my stocks at high ( not the highest, should have waited another week or so). When big boys were buying their stocks back at fraction of the cost, I did the same. This way I paid off about 65% of my mortgage 30 years mortgage I took out last year. If you believe media, then hide at home, but some people worked in hospitals, and some people work in pharma industry waiting to make millions of vaccines, which people will buy out of fear like toilet rolls (yes people are that stupid ) ;-). I could be one of those some people who worked in hospitals and work in pharma now and work on drug development programs including vaccines... Who knows, I could be one of the people involved, or a friend of some people who have huge interest in blaming conorna for every single death... And media, will sell you everything you want, they don't care either. Stats show people aged 19-40 have 99.7% survival rates, 84% of people over 80's survived. Children don't even get sick, it is very rare and they recover, but if a child now dies it must be corona, not underlying conditions... Most people die because underlying conditions, but now everyone dies of corona virus, nothing else. A man eaten by a shark died of corona virus.... Sweden has no lockdown, 4 x less deaths than Belgium with full lockdown. Taiwan little deaths, Belarus too and so on... They wanted recession, they have it , I don't care, but I won't be forced into some vaccines or lockdown bs, because I have been working in this industry for too long now... Also, knowing constitution well they can kiss my... I was stopped few times, argued and new regulations are not above constitution laws... Remember swine flu vaccines? Now google court cases, compensations paid etc. Every single doctor, who has a different opinion on this pandemic is banned from any social media, wondering why... It has been 11 years of growth, recession was badly needed, and like in 2008, I made my money again. It is just a cycle of downs and ups, if you understand that you will retire at age of 35;-). Funny thing is that in 2006 people laughed at me and called me conspiracy theorist when I told them about selling their properties at peak etc, and in 2019 September they did the same when I mentioned that another crash is on the way :) However, those people lose their jobs and savings, I gain, so I keep my thin foil hat on and let people think what they want, keep them home, most important. I can't wait for another recession... In Ireland for example, we have essential workers list, which is fine, but when you drive through towns, cities etc you can spot: 1. Water meter installations ( hugely opposed by Irish ), 2. 5G installations 3. Cops protecting them. Strangely enough when you look at the gov essential workers list, water meter and 5G is not on it. Sure , conspiracy:) Also, Speed vans are not on the list, and they are full on the streets, because they are essential, for revenue collections:)

    Tuberculosis
    1.6mln people died in 2017
    1.5mln people died in 2018
    3 people die every 1 minute

    Pneumonia
    3mln people died 2016
    2.5mln people died 2017

    Flu
    650k people die every year that's about 55k people per month

    No panic, no pandemic, no lock down , no mandatory vaccine talk...

    You can google all other viruses and stats. Also, I love the myth it spreads quicker than any virus, which actually is not even quicker that a common flu, and mortality rate is lower... People die every single day of many things, however, if someone had a terminal cancer he or she dies of corona virus... And this is me sadly talking from experience of a friend who was fighting cancer for last 2 years and died recently, the put it down as corona...The funny fact was, he was not even tested for it.

    Think what you want, do what you think is right for you, I don't mind. Also, I am not going to have full on conversation here because it is bikers forum so I will leave you to make last comments, points etc. Won't read it anyways, good luck and stay safe :D
     
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    “A full face helmet is NOT a substitute for a face mask because it does not have a filter.”
    The masks the public wears are NOT filters, the are only meant to stop the spray of spittle form talking, coughing or sneezing. My full face helmet and shield adequately provides the same barrier. I was not riding with anyone or talking to anyone.
     
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    The way I look at masks is, if I'm say in a shop and somebody near me coughs or sneezes and they have the virus, then I'd rather have a mask on, it may not be a filter or be perfect, but I'd rather have it on than not have it in this scenario.
    of course if they were wearing a mask it would be so much better again, I think masks will be mandatory on public transport, in shops etc.
     
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    If you wear one and the other doesn't, only reduces your chances to 80%. If both are wearing a mask, it cuts it down to 1.5% chance.
     
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    Just had to quote this for posterity
     
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